2014 HD 2500 DIESEL Chevy Truck

I can tell you from personal experience that the 20% pin weight is not accurate if you full time or have used your RV for a while. The weight just keeps going up and up and up!!!!!

Started out at around a 4K pin and now have moved up to 5K that is exactly 25% of my 5er's weight.

Tires are rated at 3200# ea. at 80psi.

azshooter wrote:
You guys are scaring me.
I am looking at two 5th wheel toy haulers that I thought would not be a problem for my truck.

I have a 2011 GMC Denali, crew cab, 6.5’ bed.
From truck sticker:
GVWR 10,000lb
GAWR Frt 5,200
GAWR RR 6,200

From Duramax owner’s manual supplement for my configuration:
GCWR 24,500
Max Trailer wt 15,600
Max kingpin wt 3,500

The trailers are:
Eclipse Attitude 32SAG specs: GVWR 13,500, 9180 dry weight, 2160 kingpin, actual overall length 35’6”
Genesis Supreme 32CR specs: GVWR 13,800, 9530 dry weight, 2260 kingpin, actual overall length 34’10”
(GS 32CR 2016 specs as above, the 2015 specs had a much higher kingpin spec of 3,040 which makes me wonder…)

CWSWine has a similar truck and same RR axle rating, and weighed his truck at 3220 on RR axle without hitch? or other cargo. This would indicate a real world 3000# kingpin weight limit, vs the rating of 3500#.

So if I load trailer to max and have 20% on kingpin, I would be at ~2750# kingpin, add 250# for hitch and I’m at real world limit (and below spec.) And below spec for max trailer weight.

Seemed ok to me.

Is prevailing wisdom here that I’m overloading my truck?

BTW, I’ve never owner/towed a 5th wheel before.

Thanks for advice.

You are going to be in trouble with the rear axle. Are tires rated to 3100???? Is how they set the rear GAWR to 6200?

Chris

TXiceman wrote:
38' 5er = DRW 1 ton truck....end of discussion.


Ken

X2. If you want the unit buy the proper truck for it!

You guys are scaring me.
I am looking at two 5th wheel toy haulers that I thought would not be a problem for my truck.

I have a 2011 GMC Denali, crew cab, 6.5’ bed.
From truck sticker:
GVWR 10,000lb
GAWR Frt 5,200
GAWR RR 6,200

From Duramax owner’s manual supplement for my configuration:
GCWR 24,500
Max Trailer wt 15,600
Max kingpin wt 3,500

The trailers are:
Eclipse Attitude 32SAG specs: GVWR 13,500, 9180 dry weight, 2160 kingpin, actual overall length 35’6”
Genesis Supreme 32CR specs: GVWR 13,800, 9530 dry weight, 2260 kingpin, actual overall length 34’10”
(GS 32CR 2016 specs as above, the 2015 specs had a much higher kingpin spec of 3,040 which makes me wonder…)

CWSWine has a similar truck and same RR axle rating, and weighed his truck at 3220 on RR axle without hitch? or other cargo. This would indicate a real world 3000# kingpin weight limit, vs the rating of 3500#.

So if I load trailer to max and have 20% on kingpin, I would be at ~2750# kingpin, add 250# for hitch and I’m at real world limit (and below spec.) And below spec for max trailer weight.

Seemed ok to me.

Is prevailing wisdom here that I’m overloading my truck?

BTW, I’ve never owner/towed a 5th wheel before.

Thanks for advice.

38' 5er = DRW 1 ton truck....end of discussion.


Ken

CWSWine wrote:
Truck Specs:
Chevy 2500HD Ext Cab – 6.5 Bed – 4 Wheel Drive – Z71
GVWR = 10,000
GVWR FRT = 6000
GVWR RR = 6200
Cargo Weight 2475 From Door Sticker

5th Wheel Spics
Keystone 28SGS 1/2 Ton Towable (LOL)
Dry Weight 7561
Dry Pin Weight 1410
Length 28"

Truck Scale Weight with two passengers full take fuel
Steer Axle = 4780
Dive Axle – 3220
Gross Weight = 8000

Truck & 5th Wheel Scale Weight (Load to go camping)
Steer Axle = 4700
Dive Axle 5220
Trailer Axle 6840
Gross Weight 16,760

Pin Weight loaded ready to go camping 2,000 pounds

I have same truck but my combined weights are 2000+lbs more and weighing a tad over the trucks GVW.

Truck Specs:
Chevy 2500HD Ext Cab – 6.5 Bed – 4 Wheel Drive – Z71
GVWR = 10,000
GVWR FRT = 6000
GVWR RR = 6200
Cargo Weight 2475 From Door Sticker

5th Wheel Spics
Keystone 28SGS 1/2 Ton Towable (LOL)
Dry Weight 7561
Dry Pin Weight 1410
Length 28"

Truck Scale Weight with two passengers full take fuel
Steer Axle = 4780
Dive Axle – 3220
Gross Weight = 8000

Truck & 5th Wheel Scale Weight (Load to go camping)
Steer Axle = 4700
Dive Axle 5220
Trailer Axle 6840
Gross Weight 16,760

Pin Weight loaded ready to go camping 2,000 pounds

fla-gypsy wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

MFL wrote:
Good on you Cummins, it takes a big man, to admit they were wrong!

Jerry

Thanks!

Cummins wasn't wrong at all, just his presentation was bad. His observations were dead on. This is not the Open Roads Psychic Forum.

That's funny!

It's the same all the time people never giving enough info and expecting an answer.

I could not help it "I JUST SNAPPED" :B

Cummins12V98 wrote:

MFL wrote:
Good on you Cummins, it takes a big man, to admit they were wrong!

Jerry

Thanks!

Cummins wasn't wrong at all, just his presentation was bad. His observations were dead on. This is not the Open Roads Psychic Forum.