5th Wheel Leveling

Dutch & Di wrote:
We started out with axels but later changed to Mor/Ryde Independent suspension which eliminated the axels. Di

schlep1967 wrote:

Dutch & Di wrote:
... but I had forgotten that we don't have axles. We have IS suspension so this won't work for us.
.... We have a triple axle Carriage

Now I am really confused. Your trailer has triple axels, but you don't have axels?

You don't have traditional axles with leaf springs, hangers and 'U' bolts.........

Mor/Ryde axles are welded to frame......still axles but with out the 'U' bolts, hangers etc.

You would have to cut the Mor/Ryde axle tubes off frame......weld on some box tubing (in the size of needed height increase 2", 3" etc.) and then weld the Mor/Ryde axle tubes back onto the box tubing.

We've already spoken to Gary. He is finishing up a show and hopefully will have answers for us when he gets back.
Thank you for the info. Unfortunately, it is much easier to do these things when ordered then try and change/modify at 15 year old suspension.

lillyputz wrote:

Dutch & Di wrote:
Thank you for the link and the info. It does sound like a good alignment bonus but I had forgotten that we don't have axles. We have IS suspension so this won't work for us.
Our brand new 2014 2 wheel drive Ram sits as high as a 4 wheel drive giving us only 5" of clearance at the bed of the truck which is not enough. Dutch is investigating the different bolt patterns on our Mor/Ryde IS which would allow us to raise it, but according to Mor/Ryde gain only 1". He is also investigating another way to gain more clearance by using steel tubing between the chassis and the IS. That should give us 2inches or more of clearance. This would be very extensive and expensive work.
Has anyone out there done anything other than these 2 options? If so, what did you do? We have a triple axle Carriage
We had to leave Montana to beat the snow & cold so until we can get this taken care of, we are making sure we are on as level ground as possible when we make a turn.
Any suggestions will be appreciated. Di

Di,
Call Gary Wheeler at MorRyde. His #574-293-1581 ext.222. Cell 574-370-9135.He will be able to give you advise.
On the Lifestyle RV I special ordered with the I.S. suspension, MorRyde is adding 2 inch's to the system to give me the needed clearance.

Lillyputz

Yes, unfortunately for us they raised the height of the 2 wheel drive in 2014. The 2013's that we looked at were still lower as was the picture in the 2013 brochure so we had no knowledge ahead of time that the 2014's were higher.
We are going to explore if lowering the truck is an option but it would possibly void the warranty but we are checking on that later today.
We can't flip axel's as we don't have any.
We are looking at all options and suggestions but what we would really like to know is IF anyone has actually raised their 5th wheel. If so, what was done and if you are willing to share: what was the cost. Di

SmittysRV wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Lower hitch.....
Raise pinbox....
Adjust springs in shackles......
Flip axles.......
Cut off shackles. Weld square tubes on to frame. Weld shackles back on.

That's about it for choices to adjust 5vr height

Is the truck stock height? This is the only other option I see is to lower the truck if it is lifted. I had to do this even after flipping axles on our last 5th wheel. Now with our new one I have a new truck to tow it and there are no hieght issues. Good luck!!

We started out with axels but later changed to Mor/Ryde Independent suspension which eliminated the axels. Di

schlep1967 wrote:

Dutch & Di wrote:
... but I had forgotten that we don't have axles. We have IS suspension so this won't work for us.
.... We have a triple axle Carriage

Now I am really confused. Your trailer has triple axels, but you don't have axels?

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Lower hitch.....
Raise pinbox....
Adjust springs in shackles......
Flip axles.......
Cut off shackles. Weld square tubes on to frame. Weld shackles back on.

That's about it for choices to adjust 5vr height

Is the truck stock height? This is the only other option I see is to lower the truck if it is lifted. I had to do this even after flipping axles on our last 5th wheel. Now with our new one I have a new truck to tow it and there are no hieght issues. Good luck!!

They have 3 tires in each side but Moryde IS suspension has no axles.

Dutch & Di wrote:
Thank you for the link and the info. It does sound like a good alignment bonus but I had forgotten that we don't have axles. We have IS suspension so this won't work for us.
Our brand new 2014 2 wheel drive Ram sits as high as a 4 wheel drive giving us only 5" of clearance at the bed of the truck which is not enough. Dutch is investigating the different bolt patterns on our Mor/Ryde IS which would allow us to raise it, but according to Mor/Ryde gain only 1". He is also investigating another way to gain more clearance by using steel tubing between the chassis and the IS. That should give us 2inches or more of clearance. This would be very extensive and expensive work.
Has anyone out there done anything other than these 2 options? If so, what did you do? We have a triple axle Carriage
We had to leave Montana to beat the snow & cold so until we can get this taken care of, we are making sure we are on as level ground as possible when we make a turn.
Any suggestions will be appreciated. Di

Di,
Call Gary Wheeler at MorRyde. His #574-293-1581 ext.222. Cell 574-370-9135.He will be able to give you advise.
On the Lifestyle RV I special ordered with the I.S. suspension, MorRyde is adding 2 inch's to the system to give me the needed clearance.

Lillyputz

I really don't know if there are any changes in the 2014 ram rear springs, but on previous models you could remove a spacer block from under the rear springs and place it on top of the rear springs. Rebolt and you can gain about 1 5/8". Makes it easier to work out of my old (03) ram dually.

Dutch & Di wrote:
... but I had forgotten that we don't have axles. We have IS suspension so this won't work for us.
.... We have a triple axle Carriage

Now I am really confused. Your trailer has triple axels, but you don't have axels?

wandering1 wrote:
Put a lowering kit on your truck, don't screw up the center of gravity on your trailer and not have adequate steps by flipping your axles.

Do they make lowering kit for hd trucks.