All steel 236/85/R16 LRF

JIMNLIN wrote:
Sailun makes LT and ST tires. Just saying Sailuns doesn't tell us much.

The OP is dead set on load range F or G for that smaller 12k trailer that most likely has at the most 9400-9600 lbs on the axles. This equates to 2500-2600 lbs per tire.

The trailers axles most likely are a 6 lug axles/6 lug wheels at 80 psi max rated eliminating using 110 psi wheels.

Any ST E or LT E tire at max sidewall pressure would be a better choice than derating a load F or especially a very heavy G tire.

I know rv folks like to over tire their trailers well above recommended capacities but its some thing we don't do on our hi mileage commercial trailers (serous full time haulers).
Over tire meaning = using a tire that has too much capacity to the point it needs to be derated with low tire pressures for that class tire.

Explain why derating is not an option. and why is over tire a bad thing. I would rather be a bit over tired then close to the tire rating. If he is looking for a high mileage tire, then the Endurance is not going to give it to him . They are a weekend warrior tire , someone looking for a tire to last for 5-6 years ,but not over 20k on miles .

Sailun makes LT and ST tires. Just saying Sailuns doesn't tell us much.

The OP is dead set on load range F or G for that smaller 12k trailer that most likely has at the most 9400-9600 lbs on the axles. This equates to 2500-2600 lbs per tire.

The trailers axles most likely are a 6 lug axles/6 lug wheels at 80 psi max rated eliminating using 110 psi wheels.

Any ST E or LT E tire at max sidewall pressure would be a better choice than derating a load F or especially a very heavy G tire.

I know rv folks like to over tire their trailers well above recommended capacities but its some thing we don't do on our hi mileage commercial trailers (serous full time haulers).
Over tire meaning = using a tire that has too much capacity to the point it needs to be derated with low tire pressures for that class tire.

time2roll wrote:
At 80 psi what is the rating of Sailuns vs Endurance?

Both are 3640. And looks like Endurance can go to 110 psi and 4400.

You mean the Sailun can go to 4400 @110 psi. Or 4080 if its the 235/80/16 Sailun . Endurance the max air pressure is 80 psi. 3640 max weigh rating.

If he has the wheels to handle the 95 psi, then why not go the Sailuns ???

At 80 psi what is the rating of Sailuns vs Endurance?

Both are 3640. And looks like Endurance can go to 110 psi and 4400.

time2roll wrote:
If he is going to run 80 psi I would just get the Endurance.

I think some would be well served to get over on the Montana forum, and get educated on tires. The threads on tires here just go sideways. Regardless of where the tire is made , IMO you need to give yourself every chance not to have tire problems. These recommened E rated tires just don't get the job done on heavier fifth wheels.

There is a reason for weight charts ,nothing wrong with running 80 psi on the Sailuns .

If he is going to run 80 psi I would just get the Endurance.

time2roll wrote:
TOW-MASTER STR has the LRF if that is what you want.

https://www.greenballtires.com/brands/greenball/tow-master-str

Those Towmasters F rated are rated for 3960 lbs. @ 95 psi. At that point might as well go a G rated @ 4080 lbs. @ 110 psi . Get the best tire he can.

If he is wanting an F rated tire ,then most likely he has wheels rated for 110 psi. If not then he going to run either a F or G rated @ 80 psi. , and that would still be sufficient for his weight.

Lantley wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

goducks10 wrote:
12,000 GVWR minus the pin @2400 lbs+ means only 10,600 on the axles. Any E rated tire would be more than sufficient. G's are overkill but why not.

YUP have said this a thousand times and all I get is people wanting to push a
Communist Chinese product when a GY ENDURANCE tire with WAY more capacity than needed is available. US Made and a STELLAR record.

Endurance hasn't been around long enough to have a Stellar Record!
You also need to update your thinking, Sailun is the tire with the stellar record.
I recently read that Goodyear no longer has a tire to meet RVIA specifications for larger 5th wheels.
For some rigs Sailun has become the only game in town.

Been trying to point this out ,those Endurance E rated just don't belong on very many fifth wheels. Great tire for utility trailers, light boat trailers etc.

Some persist on pushing the wrong tire for the application. The OP wants an F rated tire. IMO go the Sailun , air it down some. The price is great on the Sailun ,and as you say , they do have a STELLAR reputation .Its a bit an overkill , but the Sailun S637 ST 235/80/16 G rate @ 4080 lbs @ 110 psi is not far over on weight rating then an F rated tire. Plus the fact its the best tire he could put on that fifth wheel .

Michelin XPS ribs. No worries.

buck n duck wrote:
Looking for an all steel construction load range F tire in 235/85R16. Looks like Sailun and Hercules are LR G. My trailer is only 12,000 GVWR.

You don’t need “F” rated tires for a 12,000# 5er, our 12,300# GVWR 5er cam from the factory with LT 235/85-16 “E” Light truck tires 3,042# ea. They were still in good shape when removed at 12 years old. Replaced wit the same size Yokohama LT tires.