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Winnebago would be smart to them alone.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-10-04T10:06:19.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-10-04T10:06:19.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2381029/message:2381052","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"710","rawBody":"The wife and I are on the fence about a different RV in a couple years. Lots of time for things to change of course. Grand Design, Outdoor RV and Northwood are our current favorites. I've had the same customer service satisfaction as those at Grand Design while being a Northwood owner. I've been able to talk one on one with the tech guys. They've sent me parts 3 times so I could repair things myself. Even did some trouble shooting over the phone. I see the same thing happening at GD. IMO that's one of the top priorities that I like. They both build great trailers. Not having to deal with incompetent dealers is a blessing. I hope that GD can continue as is.
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RinconVTR wrote:
I bought a 2017 GD Imagine 2800BH in July and have yet to have any issue. But I have emailed questions to GD directly MANY times (before and after purchase) and always received a prompt accurate response. I cannot say that for any previous trailers brands I've had, except Triton.

The GD owner forum is also very good and focused, but you do pay to play.

Regarding the sale; reading between the lines its clear they will let GD manufacturing continue as is but their white collar jobs may be combined, possibly moved, and I bet that will mean a few lost jobs. How could they not do this having paid that enormous purchase price.

I loved the fact the GD was not under some big parent name and was bursting at the seams with sales, free to design trailers as they see fit. Now, some of that luster instantly fades even if reality is nothing changed and there are bigger rooms of people who have to approve new designs and improvements. That's not good.

Heck. If nothing else, perception has changed, and not for the better.


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RinconVTR wrote:
I bought a 2017 GD Imagine 2800BH in July and have yet to have any issue. But I have emailed questions to GD directly MANY times (before and after purchase) and always received a prompt accurate response. I cannot say that for any previous trailers brands I've had, except Triton.

The GD owner forum is also very good and focused, but you do pay to play.

Regarding the sale; reading between the lines its clear they will let GD manufacturing continue as is but their white collar jobs may be combined, possibly moved, and I bet that will mean a few lost jobs. How could they not do this having paid that enormous purchase price.

I loved the fact the GD was not under some big parent name and was bursting at the seams with sales, free to design trailers as they see fit. Now, some of that luster instantly fades even if reality is nothing changed and there are bigger rooms of people who have to approve new designs and improvements. That's not good.

Heck. If nothing else, perception has changed, and not for the better.


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The GD owner forum is also very good and focused, but you do pay to play.

Regarding the sale; reading between the lines its clear they will let GD manufacturing continue as is but their white collar jobs may be combined, possibly moved, and I bet that will mean a few lost jobs. How could they not do this having paid that enormous purchase price.

I loved the fact the GD was not under some big parent name and was bursting at the seams with sales, free to design trailers as they see fit. Now, some of that luster instantly fades even if reality is nothing changed and there are bigger rooms of people who have to approve new designs and improvements. That's not good.

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The GD owner forum is also very good and focused, but you do pay to play.

Regarding the sale; reading between the lines its clear they will let GD manufacturing continue as is but their white collar jobs may be combined, possibly moved, and I bet that will mean a few lost jobs. How could they not do this having paid that enormous purchase price.

I loved the fact the GD was not under some big parent name and was bursting at the seams with sales, free to design trailers as they see fit. Now, some of that luster instantly fades even if reality is nothing changed and there are bigger rooms of people who have to approve new designs and improvements. That's not good.

Heck. 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Greene728 wrote:
OP
How exactly do you figure GD bit the dust?


Another good stand alone company bought out. Anybody's guess as to which way things will turn out. Initially all seems fine. But as we all know in the RV world, things aren't always as they appear.
From all that I've read it seems as though there's some quality drop off when these things happen.
I guess bit the dust was a little hard, maybe, \"Another good company gets sucked up\" would be better.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-10-03T22:51:55.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-10-03T22:51:55.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":149},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2381029/message:2381046","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"518","rawBody":"
Greene728 wrote:
OP
How exactly do you figure GD bit the dust?


Another good stand alone company bought out. Anybody's guess as to which way things will turn out. Initially all seems fine. But as we all know in the RV world, things aren't always as they appear.
From all that I've read it seems as though there's some quality drop off when these things happen.
I guess bit the dust was a little hard, maybe, \"Another good company gets sucked up\" would be better.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2381046_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:65971":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:65971","uid":65971,"login":"Greene728","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-06-30T21:22:26.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:65971"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2381045":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2381045","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2381045":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:65971"},"id":"message:2381045","revisionNum":1,"uid":2381045,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2381029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2381029"},"subject":"Re: Another one bites the dust. Grand Design","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2381045"},"body":"OP
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Me Again wrote:
MAybe Wini can find a rear cap for the Solitude line. Chris


I don't know Chris , i have seen a few of the rear caps on the Winni towable lines and they are not attractive... although anything is better that the flat back. . . .

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Me Again wrote:
MAybe Wini can find a rear cap for the Solitude line. Chris


I don't know Chris , i have seen a few of the rear caps on the Winni towable lines and they are not attractive... although anything is better that the flat back. . . .

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