Well the same old story talk to the trailer salesman oh Yes you have a 2000 Ford F350 Dually Diesel you have plenty of truck. Well I have always wondered if my truck was really rated for the 5th wheel that I have been pulling around for 4 years. Well there was no weight sticker on the trailer when I got it because it was bleached out and I looked on line data (Which is way off now that I have had the trailer weighed)Listed weight for GVWR at 12,300lb and Dry weight@ 9,000lb. Well on the way home from Camping this last went by a weight scale at Flying J and boy the numbers are way off. The total rig weight with the family and the dog in it with no water in it is 21,400lb puts the trailer at 13,600lb 1,300lb over brochure weight:M well according a fifth wheel weight calculator I am fine with the following exceptions Truck GVW over by 240lb and Truck GCW over 1,440lb. The truck pulls fine and have not had any problems for the four years we have pulled I did add Air bags on the truck to take the sag out.total weights from Cat ScaleSteer Axle 4,980lb Limits form Ford Sticker on Door Post 5,200lbDrive Axle 6,460lb Limits form Ford Sticker on Door Post 8,250lbTrailer Axle 10,000lbGross weight 21,440lbTruck Weight with passengers is 8,105lb Just to remind you have to weigh your rigs because salesman's and product brochures may be way off.

That's interesting. The axle weight ratings for my '06 Dodge 3500 SRW are 4750 front and 6200 rear.

Sorry to hear that "another one bites the dust". In this day of sometimes less than reputable, excuse me I meant to say knowledgeable sales people, one must remember to do as much research as possible. The sales people go thru training to "sell". What they learn regarding what they are selling is not always in the study plan.

Fire 19 you are light compared to me. I have a 2006 Carriage. I weighed it with a full tank of water which is how I always travel . We were on our way out on a trip. The trailer weighs a little over 14,700lb. Of that the hitch weight is a little over 3,100lbs. So I have 11,600lbs on the tires. I have been pulling it since 2006 with a 2001 F250 diesel. I have it beefed up on the suspension so it is still sitting up just a hare at the back with the trailer on the truck. The truck does a great job pulling the trailer. Also in the bed I have a 25k airsafe hitch, behind the cab is a diamond plate toolbox with a generator and a 12 gallon fuel tank. It is called a Genbox. In front of the tailgate is a 37gallon fuel tank. So you are traveling light compared to me. A friend of mine just bought a new truck, the one he traded in was just a few years old. He told me I should break down and get me a new truck. I told him their is no way I would get rid of my 2001 ford with the 7.3 diesel in it. It does to good of job pulling my 5th wheel. I bought it brand new. This year I just busted 100,000 miles on the truck. So it isn't even broke in good yet.

When does the Onus fall on US to do our homework and know what we can tow, then research what we want to buy.Frankly it is the purchasers fault not the salesmans for this oversight.When you buy a house do you believe the realtor that it is a good house, or do you get your own inspection done??

handsome51 wrote:Fire 19 you are light compared to me. I have a 2006 Carriage. I weighed it with a full tank of water which is how I always travel . We were on our way out on a trip. The trailer weighs a little over 14,700lb. Of that the hitch weight is a little over 3,100lbs. So I have 11,600lbs on the tires. I have been pulling it since 2006 with a 2001 F250 diesel. I have it beefed up on the suspension so it is still sitting up just a hare at the back with the trailer on the truck. The truck does a great job pulling the trailer. Also in the bed I have a 25k airsafe hitch, behind the cab is a diamond plate toolbox with a generator and a 12 gallon fuel tank. It is called a Genbox. In front of the tailgate is a 37gallon fuel tank. So you are traveling light compared to me. A friend of mine just bought a new truck, the one he traded in was just a few years old. He told me I should break down and get me a new truck. I told him their is no way I would get rid of my 2001 ford with the 7.3 diesel in it. It does to good of job pulling my 5th wheel. I bought it brand new. This year I just busted 100,000 miles on the truck. So it isn't even broke in good yet.Your transmission will fail before the engine. I'm surprised it hasn't already.

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Miles_Away
Explorer
Jun 24, 2014
I'm a little confused.
If you were concerned about weight, why did you wait four years to weigh your rig?
In those four years, how much "stuff" have you loaded into the trailer, how much does it weigh, and could that have contributed to your overweight issue?
The truck GVW that you mentioned, is that with or without the trailer hitched?
Even more confusing is the comment from "the wacko cat". What do the specs from his Dodge 3500 SWR have do do with the specs from your Ford dually? I can't make the connection.

At the end of the day, you are still reasonably close. We all know, or should know, to never just take a salesman's word for something, especially if your plunking down a bunch of money. Always verify before you buy.
Fire19
Explorer
Jun 24, 2014
I did do the research because there was no Tag on the unit for the weight I did find a copy of the sales brochure the Max GVWR was listed @ 12,300lb and a dry weight of 9,800lb which is 300lb shy of the max of my truck. I did call Gulfstream today and they are sending me a new sticker for the outside of the unit. They did also stated the GVWR of my Trailer is 14080lb so that is a lot different than the brochure by about 1,800lbs.
dbbls
Explorer
Jun 24, 2014
handsome51 wrote:
Fire 19 you are light compared to me. I have a 2006 Carriage. I weighed it with a full tank of water which is how I always travel . We were on our way out on a trip. The trailer weighs a little over 14,700lb. Of that the hitch weight is a little over 3,100lbs. So I have 11,600lbs on the tires. I have been pulling it since 2006 with a 2001 F250 diesel. I have it beefed up on the suspension so it is still sitting up just a hare at the back with the trailer on the truck. The truck does a great job pulling the trailer. Also in the bed I have a 25k airsafe hitch, behind the cab is a diamond plate toolbox with a generator and a 12 gallon fuel tank. It is called a Genbox. In front of the tailgate is a 37gallon fuel tank. So you are traveling light compared to me.
A friend of mine just bought a new truck, the one he traded in was just a few years old. He told me I should break down and get me a new truck. I told him their is no way I would get rid of my 2001 ford with the 7.3 diesel in it. It does to good of job pulling my 5th wheel. I bought it brand new. This year I just busted 100,000 miles on the truck. So it isn't even broke in good yet.
Your transmission will fail before the engine. I'm surprised it hasn't already.
Stefan
Explorer
Jun 24, 2014
When does the Onus fall on US to do our homework and know what we can tow, then research what we want to buy.
Frankly it is the purchasers fault not the salesmans for this oversight.
When you buy a house do you believe the realtor that it is a good house, or do you get your own inspection done??
handsome51
Explorer
Jun 24, 2014
Fire 19 you are light compared to me. I have a 2006 Carriage. I weighed it with a full tank of water which is how I always travel . We were on our way out on a trip. The trailer weighs a little over 14,700lb. Of that the hitch weight is a little over 3,100lbs. So I have 11,600lbs on the tires. I have been pulling it since 2006 with a 2001 F250 diesel. I have it beefed up on the suspension so it is still sitting up just a hare at the back with the trailer on the truck. The truck does a great job pulling the trailer. Also in the bed I have a 25k airsafe hitch, behind the cab is a diamond plate toolbox with a generator and a 12 gallon fuel tank. It is called a Genbox. In front of the tailgate is a 37gallon fuel tank. So you are traveling light compared to me.
A friend of mine just bought a new truck, the one he traded in was just a few years old. He told me I should break down and get me a new truck. I told him their is no way I would get rid of my 2001 ford with the 7.3 diesel in it. It does to good of job pulling my 5th wheel. I bought it brand new. This year I just busted 100,000 miles on the truck. So it isn't even broke in good yet.
sjturbo
Explorer
Jun 24, 2014
Sorry to hear that "another one bites the dust". In this day of sometimes less than reputable, excuse me I meant to say knowledgeable sales people, one must remember to do as much research as possible. The sales people go thru training to "sell". What they learn regarding what they are selling is not always in the study plan.
HappyKayakers
Explorer
Jun 24, 2014
That's interesting. The axle weight ratings for my '06 Dodge 3500 SRW are 4750 front and 6200 rear.

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