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- mdamerellExplorerBasic rule of thumb that we use.
Empty weight which was about 11,000# if I read right. We added a little over 1000# of stuff to ours between mods, junk and stuff so that brings us to around 12,000# loaded weight and a pin weight is about 20% of trailer weight so 2,400# pin weight.
Actually my pin weight is 22% (2,640# on a 12,000# trl). The 20% number will get you in the ball park.
If you have weighted your truck and know how much pin weight you can carry, you can just reverse the math to find the max 5er for your truck. You'll run out of cargo capacity before you run out of tow capacity.
Example if you can only carry 2,000# in your bed.
2,000# / 0.2 = 10,000# loaded trailer
This is just fuzzy math and you still need to verify on a scale but will give you a quick idea of what you are looking at. - path1ExplorerThanks... That is getting up there to far for me.
Thanks again - Heap64ExplorerNot ours, but I searched at afnash.com for you. Keep in mind the newer 2013 and up are heavier than some older models as they are now 8.5' wide and some things added.
2014 27-5L weight details:
Hitch 2345 Lb (average dry)
UVW 10795 Lb (Unloaded Vehicle Weight)
NCC 2605 Lb (Net Carrying Capacity)
GVWR 13400 Lb (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating)
I have heard pin weights around 2800 loaded for camping. - goducks10Explorer
donn0128 wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
donn0128 wrote:
Double that and you will be close. That number is obviously based on dry weight.
It'll hardly be 3736lbs. 2600lbs would be closer.
At over 16000 GVWR it will likely be very close to double. AF are notorious for being very heavy
It's only 9650lbs dry with a 13,400 GVW. If the OP can load 3750lbs in it then maybe he'll hit 3000lbs on the pin. The fact that it has a rear kitchen will offset some of the front basement weight.
http://www.northwoodmfg.com/index.php?page=model&make=arctic&id=1050 - SteakmanExplorerI would love to own an Artic Fox...but it was one of the first trailers we nixed due to weight, as was a Citation, Sandpiper, TravelAire and a couple of others.
2500 trucks have the motor..but dont have the RAWR or GVWR that Duallys do. Thats the killer.
Took us a number of months to find a decent sized unit (30') that weighed 8050 lbs dry.. (w/3 slides no less..!), but I am sure I am still a few hundred lbs over my GVWR when I add in Pin weight loaded.
But ya do whatcha ya can to mitigate that: LRE tires at proper pressure, proper loading, no water on brd except to do a cpl flushes/wash hands. And to help with the rear end sag..although slight, I added a Roadmaster Active Suspension. Very slick and works significantly better than air bags.
Good luck on finding the right trailer at the right weight...Take a look at Rockwoods, Chaparalls and possibly Palomino's...??
....or a good used dually.
Rgds,
stk - donn0128Explorer II
goducks10 wrote:
donn0128 wrote:
Double that and you will be close. That number is obviously based on dry weight.
It'll hardly be 3736lbs. 2600lbs would be closer.
At over 13000 GVWR it will likely be very close to double. AF are notorious for being very heavy - path1Explorer
goducks10 wrote:
path1 wrote:
donn0128 wrote:
Double that and you will be close. That number is obviously based on dry weight.
Yes that number is dry weight from their ad stuff. Was trying to get real life numbers. I can see here I would run out of room quick on 3/4 dodge 2001. And really don't want to spend money for newer truck.
You could ask here. Lots of 27-5L owners.
http://www.afnash.com/forum.php
Thanks...For some reason I thought that site was for owners only. I'll register and ask there.
Just kidding, but I might be double the advertised pin weight by the time I get everything in. I have to watch the weight on our tiny Majestic. Why I carry 3 dutch ovens I don't know, we hardly ever use one of them.
Thanks again - goducks10Explorer
donn0128 wrote:
Double that and you will be close. That number is obviously based on dry weight.
It'll hardly be 3736lbs. 2600lbs would be closer. - goducks10Explorer
path1 wrote:
donn0128 wrote:
Double that and you will be close. That number is obviously based on dry weight.
Yes that number is dry weight from their ad stuff. Was trying to get real life numbers. I can see here I would run out of room quick on 3/4 dodge 2001. And really don't want to spend money for newer truck.
You could ask here. Lots of 27-5L owners.
http://www.afnash.com/forum.php - path1Explorer
donn0128 wrote:
Double that and you will be close. That number is obviously based on dry weight.
Yes that number is dry weight from their ad stuff. Was trying to get real life numbers. I can see here I would run out of room quick on 3/4 dodge 2001. And really don't want to spend money for newer truck.
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