Bigger Freshwater Tank

I'm glad that you have a concern as far as my trailer goes,...that 19k is not an exact weight. It is actually an overestimated guess of what it really was. If i'm gonna guess what it is, i'm not gonna take a low ball estimate of what it really weighs,...and then drive down the road with a false sense of security as if everything is fine and dandy. Do you know exactly what your rig weighs every single time you hit the road? Do you know exactly how much weight is in your trailer alone? Do you know how much weight you've added from loading "stuff" in your truck before you're hooked up to your trailer? Hope you get where i'm going with this. I'm sorry i didn't make an itemized list of what was loaded in the trailer and what was in the truck. I don't have a scale sitting in my driveway to weigh every single item that gets loaded in the truck, then go to the truck stop and unhitch to see exactly what my truck weighs, then hook up and weigh the whole rig together. It's not really a big deal whether or not you made yourself clear to me. I will be the first to admit that i have towed overweight three times as far as the tow vehicle is concerned, and that to me is three times too many. Not once has the trailer ever been overloaded. They were grossed out to the max, but never overloaded. The three times that it happened, I was towing with my Dodge. It was in a transition period when I had sold my Sportchassis and was for something bigger. Like so many others,...I didn't have access to a heavier duty tow vehicle at the time. Maybe you didn't read the last line of that response about "I think if i have to, i might have to upgrade to higher rated axles." It means exactly what i meant,...if i need to upgrade axles because of a safety issue, then i will. When i look at my weigh tickets, I'm not even close to being over on the axles. That's the part of safety that i'm not gonna shrug off either.

I'm not on here to argue with you or anyone else. You can check my profile. I been a member since 2006 and have posted how many times? I don't spend a lot of time on here. I login and see what's going on from time to time, because for the most part, all the questions that can be asked and answered have already been done. I'm a member of Escapees too,...same thing there. Below, I will post three weight ticket results. You can make your own assumption of what my trailer weighs, but you nor i will know the pin weight because we don't know exactly how much of the "stuff" that was loaded on and in the truck weighed. That includes firewood, extra coolers with beverages, tools, and other miscellaneous rv and camping items.

Truck weight. No tools or nothing. Just myself and full tank of fuel.
Steer Axle: 11,960
Rear Axle: 7,660
Gross Weight: 19,620

Truck and trailer loaded w/tools and "stuff" for the weekend with Teryx 4 in toy hauler.
Steer Axle: 12,080
Drive Axle: 12,060
Trailer Axles: 15,000
Gross Weight: 39,140

Truck and trailer loaded w/tools and some "stuff" to travel to Disneyworld.
Steer Axle: 12,060
Drive Axle: 12,460
Trailer Axle: 13,140
Gross Weight: 37,660

Hope that gives you a little more accurate information as far as what I'm working with. The next time that take my truck in for service, or to fill up, i will get another weigh for it since i have all my tools loaded in my truck now. When i used to tow with my Dodge, i could guess within a couple of hundred pounds of how much my trailer weighed, because we never really hauled much in the bed, and if we did, it was usually a cooler or a smaller item.

Let me know if this helps.

I was NOT addressing your tow vehicle. You said in your second post that you exceeded the gross of your Trailer, THAT is what I took exception to. Particularly in view of the fact so many people blow out RV tires from over loading and excessive speed. I hope I made myself clear I don't believe over loading an RV is ever something to shrug off as of little importance but it seems we may differ on that.

GT Roach wrote:
Why would you not care about over loading your axles, tires and wheel bearings on your trailer? I hope that when you blow one of your tires from exceeding their gross weight and role your trailer over no one else is close enough to get hurt.

Who said that I didn't care about my safety or anyone else's? If I didn't, I would have never even posted the question or response. I would have just added the tanks, and went about my business on down the road like so many other people out there. Check my response,..."I don't really worry about carrying around all that extra weight because MY TRUCK IS VERY CAPABLE OF HANDLING IT." I tow with a converted Class 8 truck. That's why it's capable,...therefore, another four or five hundred pounds of weight is not gonna make a difference for me, as far as towing like it does to others. I did mention possibly upgrading the axles too. When i look at my weigh scale tickets, and see that even when i'm loaded with my Teryx 4, I'm still 3000 lbs below for my axle ratings. So "when I blow one of my tires from exceeding their gross," I find that highly unlikely. I own the same type of pickup that you own. Mine's an '06 instead, and I still own it, but decided to upgrad to a more capable truck because I do care about yours, mine, and the safety of others out there on the road.

Why would you not care about over loading your axles, tires and wheel bearings on your trailer? I hope that when you blow one of your tires from exceeding their gross weight and role your trailer over no one else is close enough to get hurt.

Part of the reason for using so much water so quick, is the fact that there is myself, a wife, and 7 and 9 year old girls. My Fuzion came with that blizzard package, which means that i'll have to take the cover off the belly of the trailer to see what's all going on underneath. Looks to me that it has 3 43 gallon tanks for the gray, galley, and black tanks. The black tank is fine, but we always have to empty the gray which gets used the most from the bathroom sink and shower. The galley only gets used from washing dishes. I'm gonna have to do some calculating on upgrading the freshwater and the gray tank capacity. As far as toys, the only thing we really haul, is a Teryx 4. We've only done that once, and that was for a weekend trip. The trailer grossed a little over 19,000lbs, which is over the rating for the trailer, but not my truck. The thing about it,...for the short weekend trips like that, we don't have to carry all that extra stuff. When we went to Disneyworld from Chandler, we didn't take any toys, but we had to pack a lot of the extra stuff,...enough dog food for 3 dogs for a month, 4 five gallon water bottles, extra clothes, etc., the trailer was about 17,500lbs. In all honesty, i'd rather have the bigger tanks, and be able to boondock longer. I don't really worry about carrying around all that extra weight because my truck is very capable of handling it. I think if i have to, i might have to upgrade to higher rated axles, and then legally get it changed so that i can tow and not get hassled.

depends on how & where you ride. Showers @ least once a day will use up a lot. 3/4 days riding the trails will cost me about 50 for showers, dishes, doucing fires, toilet etc. I have 122 and would want more with a family. I'm usually alone

My rig has a tad more CCC than yours and there is no way I could haul another 50gals of water without being grossly over on the axles and GVW unless I left the toys at home.

13 days out boondocking and 110 gals is more than enough for the three of us.

Check out the horse trailers websites. They make a real nice corner freshwater tank that you could put inside the toy box with no installation needed. There are also numerous other models.

I'll look for the my link for you.

I always wondered why they put 110 gal fresh, 40 grey and 40 black, am I supposed to drink 30 gallons of water ??
I guess the outside shower would account for some, if you have a pressure washer that would account for some more. I used to carry extra water, but I quit hauling it around after never using all the fresh water and filling the grey to overflow on a 5 day trip. One of the rigs we have looked at has a 170 gal fresh and 50/50 grey/black, where does the extra 70 gallons go ??
My Son ripped off the tank drain on His T T, we plugged it up and fed him some water on a 4 day trip and still never ran out.