bpconversion goose neck conversion

Mmaxed wrote:
It sure sounds like you are light on tongue weight now. As you said a fifth wheel/goose neck should have 25% of the weight on the pin. If you are light now, how will you ever have the weight you need with the conversion? A fiver with too light pin weight is just as bad as a bumper pull.

correct

all that is based on not having weighed it personally and simply going off the manufacturer's word. currently at 16%..... supposedly.

if i move the spares to the nose along with the tool box i just added to the nose, that will possible add 300 lbs to the tongue. which would set me at 21% ( empty, rather then 16% current) but at what point is a bumper hitch tongue heavy w/o a load. my hitch will handle it but will others? i wont keep it forever so i have to be mindful about mods. the issue is when loaded, specifically loaded with my sand rail pulled in rather then backed in. that is when it comes up tongue light and its not fun. i have not tried with it backed in. that is more difficult to do then one would think. my rear track width is 10" wider then the front and would require scab wheels to get it narrower. it would also need to be winched in as it would be a tight fit side to side! :) definatley doable but i would pre fer to avoid it if possible. it would appear that will be what i need to try next though as it might be the simpler rt.

so the GN conversion would all but remove sway, a definate positive there, but i also wonder if it's 350lb dead weight adds to tongue weight? i would think so because if it was bolted to it , detached from the truck, it should still register as tongue weight? i have never used one so i asked. they are bolt on and can be trasferred so thats a plus . moving axles would be an option but if i ever move on to another toyhauler then moving the axles would difficult to undo where the GN would not.