carlisle tires

Me Again wrote:

RVUSA wrote:
I have never weighed it. LOL I know I know, shameful.

It's a montana 2880rl. 12340 gross on the sticker. It's not a behemoth by any stretch but behemoths dont come with 15" tires either. They are sized ok, I am guessing 500 pounds reserve carrying capacity per tire or there abouts. They never get hot, just warm. I run light on purpose (to save the tires) and I run 65mph with the occasional 70 when passing (one of you guys LOL). And they never lose air pressure, not even a pound. First time I have ever seen that on any tire that I have ever had in the past.

By the way I saw a 5th the other day that had 3 axles and all dually's. Now he had reserve carrying capacity to be sure.man I had instant suspension envy looking at that.

Edit: even though 2 of us have had good results, and I havent come across a failure report for the RH's as of yet (thats promising in itself). I would still say it's a very small data set and not to infer anything other than nothing has happened. Your mileage may vary.

And the point I make is that the Goodyear Marathon added the Nylon overlay years ago and they still fail at a fair rate. So that alone MAY not be the solution. I know that the Maxxis has the overlay, however they are a much heavier tire size for size, so they have something in their construction that is more that just an overlay of some Nylon cords.

Only time will tell and getting a lot of them in use to produce a decent sample. The manufacturers will not talk about failure rates, so we have to depend on forums like this to provide some feedback.

Chris

We have no idea whether they just added the Nylon overlay or added other improvements in the compounds, construction, etc. Again tire weight doesn't transfer in to reliability. This has been discussed before on this board. And has been proven by the new Carlisle tires proven reliable thus far even though the weight is less than the "Mx" brand.

RVUSA wrote:
I have never weighed it. LOL I know I know, shameful.

It's a montana 2880rl. 12340 gross on the sticker. It's not a behemoth by any stretch but behemoths dont come with 15" tires either. They are sized ok, I am guessing 500 pounds reserve carrying capacity per tire or there abouts. They never get hot, just warm. I run light on purpose (to save the tires) and I run 65mph with the occasional 70 when passing (one of you guys LOL). And they never lose air pressure, not even a pound. First time I have ever seen that on any tire that I have ever had in the past.

By the way I saw a 5th the other day that had 3 axles and all dually's. Now he had reserve carrying capacity to be sure.man I had instant suspension envy looking at that.

Edit: even though 2 of us have had good results, and I havent come across a failure report for the RH's as of yet (thats promising in itself). I would still say it's a very small data set and not to infer anything other than nothing has happened. Your mileage may vary.

It doesn't matter. Whatever tires he bought was right for his rig (apparently) and the tires are thus far reliable.

RVUSA wrote:
I have never weighed it. LOL I know I know, shameful.

It's a montana 2880rl. 12340 gross on the sticker. It's not a behemoth by any stretch but behemoths dont come with 15" tires either. They are sized ok, I am guessing 500 pounds reserve carrying capacity per tire or there abouts. They never get hot, just warm. I run light on purpose (to save the tires) and I run 65mph with the occasional 70 when passing (one of you guys LOL). And they never lose air pressure, not even a pound. First time I have ever seen that on any tire that I have ever had in the past.

By the way I saw a 5th the other day that had 3 axles and all dually's. Now he had reserve carrying capacity to be sure.man I had instant suspension envy looking at that.

Edit: even though 2 of us have had good results, and I havent come across a failure report for the RH's as of yet (thats promising in itself). I would still say it's a very small data set and not to infer anything other than nothing has happened. Your mileage may vary.

And the point I make is that the Goodyear Marathon added the Nylon overlay years ago and they still fail at a fair rate. So that alone MAY not be the solution. I know that the Maxxis has the overlay, however they are a much heavier tire size for size, so they have something in their construction that is more that just an overlay of some Nylon cords.

Only time will tell and getting a lot of them in use to produce a decent sample. The manufacturers will not talk about failure rates, so we have to depend on forums like this to provide some feedback.

Chris

I have never weighed it. LOL I know I know, shameful.

It's a montana 2880rl. 12340 gross on the sticker. It's not a behemoth by any stretch but behemoths dont come with 15" tires either. They are sized ok, I am guessing 500 pounds reserve carrying capacity per tire or there abouts. They never get hot, just warm. I run light on purpose (to save the tires) and I run 65mph with the occasional 70 when passing (one of you guys LOL). And they never lose air pressure, not even a pound. First time I have ever seen that on any tire that I have ever had in the past.

By the way I saw a 5th the other day that had 3 axles and all dually's. Now he had reserve carrying capacity to be sure.man I had instant suspension envy looking at that.

Edit: even though 2 of us have had good results, and I havent come across a failure report for the RH's as of yet (thats promising in itself). I would still say it's a very small data set and not to infer anything other than nothing has happened. Your mileage may vary.

CKNSLS wrote:

samandtheduck wrote:
I had Carlisles that were made about five years ago and they were a poor tire for my trailer. I had two blowouts at just over three years with low milage and no signs of problems. That is my personal experience and that is all I pass on. The new Carlisle might be better but I will wait and see. Two years or 8000 miles not a test of quality.
Brian

I would say RV USA has put them to the test. As you stated, yours were not the new ones.

How heavy is RVUSA's trailer?

samandtheduck wrote:
I had Carlisles that were made about five years ago and they were a poor tire for my trailer. I had two blowouts at just over three years with low milage and no signs of problems. That is my personal experience and that is all I pass on. The new Carlisle might be better but I will wait and see. Two years or 8000 miles not a test of quality.
Brian

I would say RV USA has put them to the test. As you stated, yours were not the new ones.

CKNSLS wrote:
I purchased 4 Carlisle Tires from Discount Tire in Orlando, FL. They went all the way up to Maine, and then back out to Utah without a SINGLE ISSUE. I never exceeded 55mph but on my 8,000 mile trip had every other TT and 5th Wheel pass me exceeding the legal limit for towing.

here's my usage.

So my Carlisle Radial RH's that I bought a year and a half ago have been to a few places.

from Orlando FL to LA Calif, 2502 miles and sat then for 4 months

from LA Calif to Orlando FL, 2502 miles and sat for 1 month

from Orlando FL to Lewistown PA, 1021 miles and sat for 4 months

from Lewistown PA. to Columbus OH (and back), 706 miles and then sat for 4 more months

from Lewistown PA. to Orlando FL, 1021 miles and sat for 6 months

from Orlando FL to Chicago IL, 1062 miles and sitting.

around 8800 miles in total.

I added the sit time between runs as it's more of a factor than some would think. The tires have to heat up and be driving to get the UV inhibitors (among other stuff) to migrate to the sidewall surface of the tire. When they sit around the stuff dissipates and the tires begin to rot from the sunlight.

I always cover them if I am going to be somewhere longer than a couple days. To date they have no indications of cracking on the sidewall or tread separation or blemishes or even loss of air. All 4 tires have had 80 psi in them each time I have checked them (a year and a half!), kind of dumbfounding a bit to me as I have never seen tires do that before.

I do one other thing as I believe it helps. when I start driving in the morning I go at least 5 miles under 50 and then hit 55 for a few more, then 60 for a few more and then 63 - 64 for the rest of the day. (I do hit 70 on occasion when passing a semi or something) I think taking a cold ST from sitting to full operating temp in just a mile or so adds to the failures. Kind of a thermal shock failure.

I have another month here and I'll be heading back to FL again. I am itching to get back into a class A rv again, but if I dont I will keep this 5th wheel and these same tires.

I had Carlisles that were made about five years ago and they were a poor tire for my trailer. I had two blowouts at just over three years with low milage and no signs of problems. That is my personal experience and that is all I pass on. The new Carlisle might be better but I will wait and see. Two years or 8000 miles not a test of quality.
Brian

I can guarantee I will never run Carlisle tires on our rv.
chevman

JTrac wrote:
Ranger boats uses them on their trailers now. A Ranger is not a cheap boat so I would think they must have confidence in them.

Hey there are a lot of very expensive 5er's out there that one would think the manufacturer would put "higher quality" tires on, but...WRONG....go look on the RV lots...

Big difference in a 14-20,000# 5er and a Ranger boat....unless that boat and trailer are 40' long and have a GVW of above weights.

Ranger, like anyone else is going to make as much money off their boats as they can, and I'd be willing to bet they buy their tires in volume...take a bid on cheap tires and Carlisle wins out...I wouldn't worry though because again, I really don't believe we're talking as much weight as a heavy 5er that would require a G rated tire at 110 psi.