Cedar Creek Silverback Pin Weights

GASA765 wrote:
Does anyone know the actual pin weights of the Silverback 33LCDTS and the 29LRGBS? The 33LCDTS is an '08 and the 29LRGBS is an '07. I know what the brochure weights indicate but wonder if the actual pin weight runs higher than stated like the Montana's do.
Thanks

The brochure weights are accurate for those models with the standard equipment. When propane, a battery, and optional equipment (2nd A/C etc.) is added to the trailer the pin weight increases. The only way to get the true empty pin weight of those trailers is to take them to a scale.

Dumb question. Is the camper fully loaded or partly loaded full water tank or empty. Full of stuff you picked up along the way As the black tank fills and the water tank emptys weight shifts.you could move a couple hundred pounds around and the pin changes. If you really want to know go weigh it.

2500's have 5 thinner leaf springs and 3500's have 4 thicker leaf springs.
The RAWR is 6000lbs for 2500's and 6200lbs for 3500's.

jsr21 wrote:

GASA765 wrote:
Spoke to the people at the Dodge dealership parts dept and one of the techs. They said the 2500 and 3500 have the same 11.5 rear axle and the main difference was the additional leaf springs on the 3500. Could either add air bags or additional springs to the 2500 and would have pretty much a 3500 capable 2500 as far as payload goes. Still wouldn't want to exceed the 13500 towing capacity or the 20000 combined rating.

with hemi gas engine 10.5 rear axle...if equipped with Cummins 11.5

You are correct. My 03 2500 Ram/Cummins did not squat at all with a 2014 Silverback, but I added air bags to work with the leaf springs. When hitting dips in the road, like at each end of some bridges, the leafs do not take all of the abuse. You only need 10 to 30 lbs. in the air bags to improve the ride, and any more would make it too stiff, and not alow the leafs to work also.

I believe for Dodge 2500 and 3500SRW alike, around that year, the RGWAR (rear axle weight rating) was only about 6000 lbs. The door sticker will state the RGAWR.

If you want to carry an actual loaded pin weight of 2500 lbs or more, you're likely looking at changing out the tires and wheels for larger, heavier duty ones (265-E's on 7" wide wheels, or 285-E's on 8" wide wheels) and adding 3500 model overload springs, and/or an extra leaf in the main spring pack.

Actually the new 3500's have less heavier leafs vs the 2500's. Chris

GASA765 wrote:
Spoke to the people at the Dodge dealership parts dept and one of the techs. They said the 2500 and 3500 have the same 11.5 rear axle and the main difference was the additional leaf springs on the 3500. Could either add air bags or additional springs to the 2500 and would have pretty much a 3500 capable 2500 as far as payload goes. Still wouldn't want to exceed the 13500 towing capacity or the 20000 combined rating.

I think everyone already knows the 2500/3500 Dodge/Cummins trucks uses the AAM 11.5" rear axle and has since '03 except for one poster who shoots from the hip much of the time.

GASA765 wrote:
Spoke to the people at the Dodge dealership parts dept and one of the techs. They said the 2500 and 3500 have the same 11.5 rear axle and the main difference was the additional leaf springs on the 3500. Could either add air bags or additional springs to the 2500 and would have pretty much a 3500 capable 2500 as far as payload goes. Still wouldn't want to exceed the 13500 towing capacity or the 20000 combined rating.

with hemi gas engine 10.5 rear axle...if equipped with Cummins 11.5

GASA765 wrote:
Spoke to the people at the Dodge dealership parts dept and one of the techs. They said the 2500 and 3500 have the same 11.5 rear axle and the main difference was the additional leaf springs on the 3500. Could either add air bags or additional springs to the 2500 and would have pretty much a 3500 capable 2500 as far as payload goes. Still wouldn't want to exceed the 13500 towing capacity or the 20000 combined rating.

air bags won't do anything for load carrying capability, just make the truck sit level.

Spoke to the people at the Dodge dealership parts dept and one of the techs. They said the 2500 and 3500 have the same 11.5 rear axle and the main difference was the additional leaf springs on the 3500. Could either add air bags or additional springs to the 2500 and would have pretty much a 3500 capable 2500 as far as payload goes. Still wouldn't want to exceed the 13500 towing capacity or the 20000 combined rating.