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Now this cold snap will bring temps down to 25 degrees tonight.
I used the Thetford system to sanitize and it takes about 3 hours so re-winterizing and re-sanitizing is something I would rather not do.
Instead, I have the furnace running at 55 degrees but I don't know if this is warm enough to protect the water lines. The rig does have a All Season insulation package on it. Does anyone have any idea?
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I used the Thetford system to sanitize and it takes about 3 hours so re-winterizing and re-sanitizing is something I would rather not do.
Instead, I have the furnace running at 55 degrees but I don't know if this is warm enough to protect the water lines. The rig does have a All Season insulation package on it. Does anyone have any idea?
Buckeye Chuck wrote: I think that the confusion is about draining. The water tank is not affected by draining the low water drains. It has its own drain which is not opened in this case. The low water drains are located under the bottom of the trailer. They are two lines, one blue,cold and one red,hot. Only the water lines are affected by these drains.
Well I my rig opening the low point will drain the hot water tank, it will take a bit if no hot water faucet is open. If he is referring to the fresh water tank and turned on the heater that is a different story.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-16T05:53:46.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-16T05:53:46.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1015577/message:1015596","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015595":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1015595","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1015595":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:247498"},"id":"message:1015595","revisionNum":1,"uid":1015595,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1015577"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1015577"},"subject":"Re: Cold Snap","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015595"},"body":"I think that the confusion is about draining. The water tank is not affected by draining the low water drains. It has its own drain which is not opened in this case. The low water drains are located under the bottom of the trailer. They are two lines, one blue,cold and one red,hot. Only the water lines are affected by these drains.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-16T03:59:33.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-16T03:59:33.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1015577/message:1015595","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015594":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1015594","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1015594":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2086"},"id":"message:1015594","revisionNum":1,"uid":1015594,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1015577"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1015577"},"subject":"Re: Cold Snap","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015594"},"body":"
Goostoff wrote: Just came in the house from prepping my trailer for the night. I turned on the furnace to 40 degrees and opend the cold faucet in the kitcken. I also turned on the water heater, and opened the low point drains. I am not worried one bit and it is predicted to get 20 out tonight.
Draining the water, AND turning on the Water Heater is the confusing part.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-16T03:12:22.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-16T03:12:22.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1015577/message:1015594","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:311536":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:311536","uid":311536,"login":"Goostoff","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-11-11T18:02:19.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:311536"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015593":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1015593","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1015593":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:311536"},"id":"message:1015593","revisionNum":1,"uid":1015593,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1015577"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1015577"},"subject":"Re: Cold Snap","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015593"},"body":"
rhagfo wrote:
Goostoff wrote:
Buckeye Chuck wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
Goostoff wrote: Just came in the house from prepping my trailer for the night. I turned on the furnace to 40 degrees and opend the cold faucet in the kitcken. I also turned on the water heater, and opened the low point drains. I am not worried one bit and it is predicted to get 20 out tonight.
Little lost here turned on a faucet and opened the low point drain????
With the water turned off at the spicket and hose disconnected at the camper open the faucets to allow them to bleed off any pressure and water and also to aid water draining out of the low point drains. This will drain most of the water from the lines.
Yep... What he said
Statement doesn't make sense. Turned on the Hater heater, opened cold water faucet and opened the low point drains.
I guess I just get a little confused by the issue, above 25 to 28 over night leave it as long as the day time temps were about 50.
Lower than 25, Drain and blow the lines, takes all of 20 minutes. NO PINK STUFF just blow the lines, and drain the hot water tank. I do this at the storage yard between three to four times a year.
Maybe I am a little insensitive about this because I do multiple times a year, I also don't do it if the temps are not going to be too far below freezing.
I don't use the Pink Stuff any longer except in the traps. Two reasons; 1. Wife has sensitive taste and had to flush forever for her not to taste. 2. Several of our winter campgrounds don't have full hookup's, so we don't have the issue of flushing the Pink Stuff out of the lines into the tanks.
Currently I travel too much for work, and have done it more this year than last as anytime I was going to be out of town for a week, could not take a chance on a cold snap.
If you trailer has an inclosed belly it is going to be cold for a bit to longer get the lines to freeze.
Take it for what it is, it is your choice, and your investment,
So it takes you 20 minute to blow out the lines. Thats fine. It took me longer to run across the road in my underwear at 10:00 at night in 20 degree temps than it did to flip a switch on the water heater and open the low point drains to empty the lines. I dont see how this is confusing.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-15T21:24:24.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-15T21:24:24.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1015577/message:1015593","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015592":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1015592","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1015592":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2086"},"id":"message:1015592","revisionNum":1,"uid":1015592,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1015577"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1015577"},"subject":"Re: Cold Snap","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015592"},"body":"
Goostoff wrote:
Buckeye Chuck wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
Goostoff wrote: Just came in the house from prepping my trailer for the night. I turned on the furnace to 40 degrees and opend the cold faucet in the kitcken. I also turned on the water heater, and opened the low point drains. I am not worried one bit and it is predicted to get 20 out tonight.
Little lost here turned on a faucet and opened the low point drain????
With the water turned off at the spicket and hose disconnected at the camper open the faucets to allow them to bleed off any pressure and water and also to aid water draining out of the low point drains. This will drain most of the water from the lines.
Yep... What he said
Statement doesn't make sense. Turned on the Hater heater, opened cold water faucet and opened the low point drains.
I guess I just get a little confused by the issue, above 25 to 28 over night leave it as long as the day time temps were about 50.
Lower than 25, Drain and blow the lines, takes all of 20 minutes. NO PINK STUFF just blow the lines, and drain the hot water tank. I do this at the storage yard between three to four times a year.
Maybe I am a little insensitive about this because I do multiple times a year, I also don't do it if the temps are not going to be too far below freezing.
I don't use the Pink Stuff any longer except in the traps. Two reasons; 1. Wife has sensitive taste and had to flush forever for her not to taste. 2. Several of our winter campgrounds don't have full hookup's, so we don't have the issue of flushing the Pink Stuff out of the lines into the tanks.
Currently I travel too much for work, and have done it more this year than last as anytime I was going to be out of town for a week, could not take a chance on a cold snap.
If you trailer has an inclosed belly it is going to be cold for a bit to longer get the lines to freeze.
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Buckeye Chuck wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
Goostoff wrote: Just came in the house from prepping my trailer for the night. I turned on the furnace to 40 degrees and opend the cold faucet in the kitcken. I also turned on the water heater, and opened the low point drains. I am not worried one bit and it is predicted to get 20 out tonight.
Little lost here turned on a faucet and opened the low point drain????
With the water turned off at the spicket and hose disconnected at the camper open the faucets to allow them to bleed off any pressure and water and also to aid water draining out of the low point drains. This will drain most of the water from the lines.
Yep... What he said","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-15T17:38:01.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-15T17:38:01.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1015577/message:1015591","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015590":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1015590","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1015590":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:247498"},"id":"message:1015590","revisionNum":1,"uid":1015590,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1015577"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1015577"},"subject":"Re: Cold Snap","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1015590"},"body":"
rhagfo wrote:
Goostoff wrote: Just came in the house from prepping my trailer for the night. I turned on the furnace to 40 degrees and opend the cold faucet in the kitcken. I also turned on the water heater, and opened the low point drains. I am not worried one bit and it is predicted to get 20 out tonight.
Little lost here turned on a faucet and opened the low point drain????
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Goostoff wrote: Just came in the house from prepping my trailer for the night. I turned on the furnace to 40 degrees and opend the cold faucet in the kitcken. I also turned on the water heater, and opened the low point drains. I am not worried one bit and it is predicted to get 20 out tonight.
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