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Bayley
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Jun 05, 2019

Dual Motor Landing Gear

I posted a question a few days ago about getting my landing gear to raise high enough to get off the ball of the Andersen hitch.

I've decided to upgrade to a dual motor system and would like to hear any advice you have about which system is best. I am looking at the Bulldog and the Ultra Fab systems. From my research I think either one will work with the existing stop brackets on my trailer. I guess It comes down to ease of installation and quality of the product.
Do any of you have experience with either of these units?
Thanks,
Tony

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  • Bayley's avatar
    Bayley
    Explorer
    Jun 07, 2019
    Well.....I ordered the Bulldog Dual Motor Landing gear today and not a minute too soon!!
    I had the trailer at home doing some cleaning and odd projects and returned it to the storage unit this afternoon. I was raising the trailer and just about had it off the truck when the drivers side landing leg gave way and the trailer dropped back down on the truck. Lucky enough the other leg kept things from getting out of control. I thought the leg must have slipped through the brackets or something but when I checked everything was in tact. The only thing I can guess is that the screw mechanism failed inside the tube.
    This must be why I started having so much additional trouble getting the trailer raised enough to get off the Andersen Hitch Ball in recent trips. I will be so happy when the new landing gear arrives and I can get the bad one replaced.
  • fj12ryder's avatar
    fj12ryder
    Explorer III
    Jun 05, 2019
    N-Trouble wrote:
    fj12ryder wrote:
    I have the Bulldog and couldn't be happier with it. The old one motor system and our heavy toyhauler was awful, you basically had to chalk the legs to see if they were moving, and it sounded like it was about to fail. And then it did.

    The Bulldog system was relatively easy to install, our main issue was with the generator on one side making access to the leg on that side a bit of a pain.

    Be sure to check the distances between the leg stops on the trailer to make sure it will fit your trailer. They aren't cheap, but the alternative was to throw good money after bad.

    Due to the weight of our trailer we had to set the motor to high torque rather than high speed, so it's still not fast, but at least you can see it move. And super, super quiet...it never sounds like it's struggling in the least. And that's with our 15,000 lb. toyhauler.

    I recommend it highly as a replacement set of legs.


    So how did you deal with the leg next to the genny?
    I had a mobile RV guy handle it. :) He was much smaller than I and could fit atop the generator housing and reach the leg. I'm simply to fat and too old and not nimble enough to reach it. If it hadn't been for that I could have done the whole thing myself. I did do the wiring and mounted the control panel. It's really an easy conversion...if you have easy access to both legs.
  • the_bear_II's avatar
    the_bear_II
    Explorer
    Jun 05, 2019
    I don't know what type of dual motor system I have (it was converted at the factory in 1997). It works great and allows for some adjustment side to side for leveling.
  • laknox's avatar
    laknox
    Nomad
    Jun 05, 2019
    I've never had to change a leg, or legs, but my current KZ, with 4-point leveling system, is about 4x faster than my old Komfort, with a single motor. Makes hitching and unhitching a =lot= faster.

    Lyle
  • N-Trouble's avatar
    N-Trouble
    Explorer
    Jun 05, 2019
    fj12ryder wrote:
    I have the Bulldog and couldn't be happier with it. The old one motor system and our heavy toyhauler was awful, you basically had to chalk the legs to see if they were moving, and it sounded like it was about to fail. And then it did.

    The Bulldog system was relatively easy to install, our main issue was with the generator on one side making access to the leg on that side a bit of a pain.

    Be sure to check the distances between the leg stops on the trailer to make sure it will fit your trailer. They aren't cheap, but the alternative was to throw good money after bad.

    Due to the weight of our trailer we had to set the motor to high torque rather than high speed, so it's still not fast, but at least you can see it move. And super, super quiet...it never sounds like it's struggling in the least. And that's with our 15,000 lb. toyhauler.

    I recommend it highly as a replacement set of legs.


    So how did you deal with the leg next to the genny?
  • fj12ryder's avatar
    fj12ryder
    Explorer III
    Jun 05, 2019
    I have the Bulldog and couldn't be happier with it. The old one motor system and our heavy toyhauler was awful, you basically had to chalk the legs to see if they were moving, and it sounded like it was about to fail. And then it did.

    The Bulldog system was relatively easy to install, our main issue was with the generator on one side making access to the leg on that side a bit of a pain.

    Be sure to check the distances between the leg stops on the trailer to make sure it will fit your trailer. They aren't cheap, but the alternative was to throw good money after bad.

    Due to the weight of our trailer we had to set the motor to high torque rather than high speed, so it's still not fast, but at least you can see it move. And super, super quiet...it never sounds like it's struggling in the least. And that's with our 15,000 lb. toyhauler.

    I recommend it highly as a replacement set of legs.
  • phemens's avatar
    phemens
    Explorer
    Jun 05, 2019
    I have the Ultra Fab dual motor with the Andersen hitch. Quite satisfied with the performance so far. I added the JT Strong Arm stabilizers as we’ll.
  • sayoung's avatar
    sayoung
    Explorer
    Jun 05, 2019
    Check with Eteailer about the kits to convert your existing gear to dual motor. They had one for the ones on our 5er but I opted to just go with a 6pt hydraulic from Equalizer Systems.
  • N-Trouble's avatar
    N-Trouble
    Explorer
    Jun 05, 2019
    Have heard good things about Bully. I also have a slow single motor and it sux with the Andersen.

    I want to upgrade but getting the leg changed out on the curb side looks to be a real PITA. Either have to pull the genny or find someone small enough to slide up and over the generator box.

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I had the trailer at home doing some cleaning and odd projects and returned it to the storage unit this afternoon. I was raising the trailer and just about had it off the truck when the drivers side landing leg gave way and the trailer dropped back down on the truck. Lucky enough the other leg kept things from getting out of control. I thought the leg must have slipped through the brackets or something but when I checked everything was in tact. The only thing I can guess is that the screw mechanism failed inside the tube.
This must be why I started having so much additional trouble getting the trailer raised enough to get off the Andersen Hitch Ball in recent trips. I will be so happy when the new landing gear arrives and I can get the bad one replaced.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-06-06T21:15:55.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-06-06T21:15:55.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":234},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3136923/message:3136932","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:21985":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:21985","uid":21985,"login":"fj12ryder","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-08-19T14:21:04.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:21985"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136931":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3136931","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3136931":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:21985"},"id":"message:3136931","revisionNum":1,"uid":3136931,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3136923"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3136923"},"subject":"Re: Dual Motor Landing Gear","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136931"},"body":"
N-Trouble wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
I have the Bulldog and couldn't be happier with it. The old one motor system and our heavy toyhauler was awful, you basically had to chalk the legs to see if they were moving, and it sounded like it was about to fail. And then it did.

The Bulldog system was relatively easy to install, our main issue was with the generator on one side making access to the leg on that side a bit of a pain.

Be sure to check the distances between the leg stops on the trailer to make sure it will fit your trailer. They aren't cheap, but the alternative was to throw good money after bad.

Due to the weight of our trailer we had to set the motor to high torque rather than high speed, so it's still not fast, but at least you can see it move. And super, super quiet...it never sounds like it's struggling in the least. And that's with our 15,000 lb. toyhauler.

I recommend it highly as a replacement set of legs.


So how did you deal with the leg next to the genny?
I had a mobile RV guy handle it. :) He was much smaller than I and could fit atop the generator housing and reach the leg. I'm simply to fat and too old and not nimble enough to reach it. If it hadn't been for that I could have done the whole thing myself. I did do the wiring and mounted the control panel. 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Makes hitching and unhitching a =lot= faster.

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fj12ryder wrote:
I have the Bulldog and couldn't be happier with it. The old one motor system and our heavy toyhauler was awful, you basically had to chalk the legs to see if they were moving, and it sounded like it was about to fail. And then it did.

The Bulldog system was relatively easy to install, our main issue was with the generator on one side making access to the leg on that side a bit of a pain.

Be sure to check the distances between the leg stops on the trailer to make sure it will fit your trailer. They aren't cheap, but the alternative was to throw good money after bad.

Due to the weight of our trailer we had to set the motor to high torque rather than high speed, so it's still not fast, but at least you can see it move. And super, super quiet...it never sounds like it's struggling in the least. And that's with our 15,000 lb. toyhauler.

I recommend it highly as a replacement set of legs.


So how did you deal with the leg next to the genny?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-06-05T07:52:21.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-06-05T07:52:21.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":232},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3136923/message:3136928","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136927":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3136927","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3136927":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:21985"},"id":"message:3136927","revisionNum":1,"uid":3136927,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3136923"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3136923"},"subject":"Re: Dual Motor Landing Gear","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136927"},"body":"I have the Bulldog and couldn't be happier with it. The old one motor system and our heavy toyhauler was awful, you basically had to chalk the legs to see if they were moving, and it sounded like it was about to fail. And then it did.

The Bulldog system was relatively easy to install, our main issue was with the generator on one side making access to the leg on that side a bit of a pain.

Be sure to check the distances between the leg stops on the trailer to make sure it will fit your trailer. They aren't cheap, but the alternative was to throw good money after bad.

Due to the weight of our trailer we had to set the motor to high torque rather than high speed, so it's still not fast, but at least you can see it move. And super, super quiet...it never sounds like it's struggling in the least. And that's with our 15,000 lb. toyhauler.

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