DirtyOil wrote:
the Engineers are right... but the point I'm trying to make is, with an gooseneck adapter and even with the "proper" fifth wheel hitch" the damage done is not at the "pin" or at the hitch. The damage occurs back of the pin and pin box, at the frame. With the porpusing and high speed over rough roads combined with perhaps an overloaded front end of any trailer fifth wheel or gooseneck, the damage occurs mostly at the trailer frame, not at the hitch (unless a roll over or partial roll over where it doesn't matter what hitch your using, there's going to more then trailer frame damage).
Ya'll remember those faulty Lippert frames, can't find anything on the failures caused by gooseneck adapters, looks like all the failures were with a "fifth wheel hitch"? Could be wrong, maybe the good people here can post or direct me to factual stories of Gooseneck failures?
If you really believe that the Engineers have it right, meaning any extension adds stress. And the weak point is the fiver frame, which is generally hidden, making inspection difficult, either to determine if a frame is strong enough in advance or routine inspections during the life of a trailer. And there are plenty of examples of frame failures. Then there should be no compelling reason to hear or see examples of frame failure with adding an extension. It is simple, increasing stress = increasing risk. Or send a PM to Craig Schomer since he replied to this thread for more details of his experience.