Fifth Wheel Shopping Advice

Just an update.

After a lot more research trying to get info on the subject of payload and towing capacity, according to GM as of 2014 all payload stickers on the doors of their trucks include ALL occupants, 5 in my case with all full fluids including full tank of fuel. The posted 2910# on my truck is actual payload capacity "after" these items were factored in. Apparently prior to 2014 GM weighed their vehicles without full fluids and added options.

That being said we are looking at 5ers a bit less in the GVWR than the two I mentioned.

Thanks to everyone for your input on the subject.

Me Again wrote:

S&B123 wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:
GO out to your truck
Open drivers door and look on door jam
Tire Data Sticker----Yellow with have cargo carrying capacity

PAYLOAD.

Also note the info.........All Occupants and cargo must not exceed XXXX lbs.

PAYLOAD.

Both of the 5vrs you are interested in have DRY pin weight of 2000# which means when they are loaded up camp ready the pin weight will be closer to 2800#

How much PAYLOAD is listed on that Yellow Sticker????

Got enough for that amount of WET pin weight after subtracting the weight of ALL occupants/cargo (stuff inside cab/hitch in bed)???

Thanks very much!!! Shows 2910#. Was able to find out that includes one 150lb driver and all fluids to full per GM.

Another number to look at closely is the rear GAWR.

Actual rear axle weight, plus hitch and things in the bed, plus pin weight needs to equal an amount less the rear GAWR.

Chris

And then look at trucks rear tire MAX Load Ratings at MAX PSI.

SO rear tires, rear axle and payload numbers

OP....
2910# Payload per door sticker
2800# Wet Pin weight of either of those 5th wheels you are contemplating (I tow 14K 5vr---actual pin wet is 3000#)

That only leaves 110# for occupants/stuff

RAWR...6200#
GVWR....9500# ???

Quickly running out of truck.....so need lighter trailer.
Check into ones that have a GVWR of 12K or less for happy towing.

Happy towing results in more towing which means more fun cause you go more often

(VS...I hate towing this)

We are also looking at Grand Design among a bunch of the new toy haulers. Not sure what we're going to do yet but kicking around going back FT again.

S&B123 wrote:
Hey all.

Been a while since I posted anything here. Just looking for some input regarding the purchase of a new (and first) fifth wheel. Currently we are looking very seriously at a Grand Design Reflection 337RLS and a Cedar Creek Silverback 33IK. We tow with a Silverado 2500HD (4.10) rear.

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Never pay the sticker price!! the price should be about $20,000 less than the sticker.

I bought a Cedar Creek Silverback 31RK. very nice unit. Just a couple of problems with traveling and the glassware, refrigerator and I had a drawer's bottom fall out (but it did have a cast iron pot in it).

And as you can see I'm pulling it with a F-250. I put some Timbrems on and have not looked back.

S&B123 wrote:
Hey all.

Been a while since I posted anything here. Just looking for some input regarding the purchase of a new (and first) fifth wheel. Currently we are looking very seriously at a Grand Design Reflection 337RLS and a Cedar Creek Silverback 33IK. We tow with a Silverado 2500HD (4.10) rear.

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Those brands have a good reputation with quality, and customer service.

S&B123 wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:
GO out to your truck
Open drivers door and look on door jam
Tire Data Sticker----Yellow with have cargo carrying capacity

PAYLOAD.

Also note the info.........All Occupants and cargo must not exceed XXXX lbs.

PAYLOAD.

Both of the 5vrs you are interested in have DRY pin weight of 2000# which means when they are loaded up camp ready the pin weight will be closer to 2800#

How much PAYLOAD is listed on that Yellow Sticker????

Got enough for that amount of WET pin weight after subtracting the weight of ALL occupants/cargo (stuff inside cab/hitch in bed)???

Thanks very much!!! Shows 2910#. Was able to find out that includes one 150lb driver and all fluids to full per GM.

Another number to look at closely is the rear GAWR.

Actual rear axle weight, plus hitch and things in the bed, plus pin weight needs to equal an amount less the rear GAWR.

Chris

Old-Biscuit wrote:
GO out to your truck
Open drivers door and look on door jam
Tire Data Sticker----Yellow with have cargo carrying capacity

PAYLOAD.

Also note the info.........All Occupants and cargo must not exceed XXXX lbs.

PAYLOAD.

Both of the 5vrs you are interested in have DRY pin weight of 2000# which means when they are loaded up camp ready the pin weight will be closer to 2800#

How much PAYLOAD is listed on that Yellow Sticker????

Got enough for that amount of WET pin weight after subtracting the weight of ALL occupants/cargo (stuff inside cab/hitch in bed)???

Thanks very much!!!

john&bet wrote:
We just got back from a week in Holmes County, Ohio and saw way to many 2500 trucks with 15K+ gvw 5th wheels in the campgrounds we were in. So it must be ok to pull that heavy a 5th with a 2500 series truck. But I wont.

Just curious John, what is your pin weight on the Montana?

GO out to your truck
Open drivers door and look on door jam
Tire Data Sticker----Yellow with have cargo carrying capacity

PAYLOAD.

Also note the info.........All Occupants and cargo must not exceed XXXX lbs.

PAYLOAD.

Both of the 5vrs you are interested in have DRY pin weight of 2000# which means when they are loaded up camp ready the pin weight will be closer to 2800#

How much PAYLOAD is listed on that Yellow Sticker????

Got enough for that amount of WET pin weight after subtracting the weight of ALL occupants/cargo (stuff inside cab/hitch in bed)???

S&B123 wrote:
Hey all.

Been a while since I posted anything here. Just looking for some input regarding the purchase of a new (and first) fifth wheel. Currently we are looking very seriously at a Grand Design Reflection 337RLS and a Cedar Creek Silverback 33IK. We tow with a Silverado 2500HD (4.10) rear.

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Even with a 2016 2500HD, IMO you're over your truck's payload with either of these trailers.

Lyle