BigDinAZ wrote:
Greetings, Don here from Southeast AZ. We are looking to get a FW, but have no real rush because we want to research, and pick the best rig for us.
We just purchased our new 2018 Ram 2500 Laramie. 6.7 Cummins and a 3:73 rear end. I pulled the vin up on Ram towing guide and it says 17,100 LBS Max towing.
The GVWR is 10,000 lbs and rear axle Max is 6,000.
I understand the dry weight and GVWR weight as well as pin weight. So here is my question.
IF I get a trailer that has a GVWR of 16K lbs, and a pin weight under or at 2k lbs I should be okay right?
In other words the 16K LBS GVWR is under the 17,100 Max towing, and the pin weight of 2k lbs is under the 6K Max axle capacity. Am I correct in my thinking?
I want to make sure I am researching the right FW and weights BEFORE really looking.
Thanks in advance.
Don.
This is where so many go wrong when looking at MAX tow ratings.
Your Laramie is a upper trim level, which will reduce available payload. The 17,000# max trailer is what you can pull, NOT what you can carry. The available payload as the truck left the factory is located on the drivers door pillar. It is likely less than 2,500# BEFORE you add passengers, hitch, stuff, and passengers.
Now to carrying a 16,000# 5er, you are now pushing DRW territory. Unlike a TT to tow well you need a pin weight of 20% to 25% of the 5er's GVW. So if you do the math at 14,000# 20% = 2,800# and 25% = 3,500#. Now step up to a 16,000# 5er, 20% = 3,200# and 25% = 4,000#.
You will get a lot of those saying GVWR has no meaning, and go by rear axle and tire ratings. Well you state 6,000# rear axle rating, empty bed near 3,000# leaves about 3,000# for pin and other stuff.
I ran for several years with a 2001 Ram 2500 CTD towing and carrying a 12,300# 5er, in 2001 the Ram only had a GVWR of 8,800#, but a rear axle rating of 6,084# rear axle. I only exceeded the 8,800# GVWR, but I did so by 1,700#! While it did fine, the fact I was 1,700# over GVWR keep eating at me as there are just too many hungry lawyers out there now days. I am glad I am now out from under that issue, now days I have about 1,300# of spare payload.
So one other thing the 2500 only came with 3.42's and the RFE68 trans.