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NC_Hauler
Apr 11, 2014Explorer
cruz-in wrote:
"but has ISO accreditations that make it a viable tire. They meet the same stringent criterium to be a Tier 1 supplier that my company has to meet to compete in the world market... TS16949 accreditation shows that you have high standards of Quality control processes in place as well as record keeping, training, safety and management standards in place and are meeting specific criterium to show you are producing a quality product..."
While ISo certification and TS16949 acreditation is indeed a good think. What is said here is a common misconception and inaccurate.
I have lived through one certification and am in the process of getting the second of my three divisions certified. Just last week we had an audit by the certifying organization.
In the jargon of ISO, these are NOT "prescriptive" standards. They mandate that one has process and procedures.They do not mandate what those procedures are. Each company develops its own unique procedures. A fully ISO certified company can (and many do) build poor products. Why? Because they have defined poor process and procedures. But they are still ISO certified because they have process/procedures in all the areas required by ISO. ISO certification is not an indication of how good your process/procedures are. It certifies that you have process /procedures in all the areas required by the standard.
"are meeting specific criterium to show you are producing a quality product." The standards do not do this. They simply verify that you have processes and procedures in place. Not that they are good or bad processes/procedures and it certainly does not certify that you ""are meeting specific criterium to show you are producing a quality product."
I will beg to differ with you, having been through these standards processes and audits since 1993. If they are "bad processes", you get a major finding, you can lose you rating, at that point, I don't know what business you are in, but in our business, we would lose business. It does guarantee Quality processes in place and being followed..if processes were bad, not documented, not proven, you could lose your accreditation.
Processes are in place, being followed, manufacturing processes and testing procedures documented, along with training records...I don't know what you are dealing with, but our company manufacturers calipers and combi-calipers, almost 9,000,000 of them last year. Our customers, BMW, Mercedes Benz, Chrysler, Ford, GM, VW, Volvo to name a few...and if we don't meet these requirements, we could lose contracts....I know this for fact.
I will not belabor the point, but know what I've dealt with in this area for almost 21 years.
I will put more faith in a manufacturer who has the standards in place than a manufacturer who doesn't...
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