Has anyone been stopped by D.O.T.

rhagfo wrote:

If you are only 240# over GVWR and rear axle and tires are just under sounds like you are running a fiver on a max tow, not max payload F150.

If one is #240 lbs over their GVWR how could they not be exceeding the maximum payload rating? I understand not being over the FAWR, RAWR or GCWR. I also understand that the sum of the axels does not equal the GVWR of the truck as it's usually more. Is that what you're referring to?

dawzie wrote:
Concerned about being weighed. I'm 240 lbs. over gross on truck. Rear tires and axle are just under. Front axle only gained 60 lbs. Fiver axles and tires are fine.

If you are only 240# over GVWR and rear axle and tires are just under sounds like you are running a fiver on a max tow, not max payload F150.
This where things get a little questionable, I for one would rather see an F150 over GVWR pulling a 5er than a long heavy TT as the 5er is naturally more stable.
Would rather see it as a Max/Max doing it, but make sure your tires are up to the weight carried.
I will never tell anyone to run over their TV ratings, that is their decision. I for
One will never exceed tire ratings!!!! I don't even like being close to them,

In the past it's been a state tax issue as far as the states are concerned. If you have the plates and registered weight structured so you're covered, the state was happy. Then enter the Feds. NHTSA has been pushing the individual states to start denying plate/registered weights over manufacturers placard limits for "safety". States are reluctant to do this because they see it as a reduction in their tax take, and they know most owners will register at whatever weight they specify and go right on carrying the same heavy loads they've been carrying. Overall a loss in state tax revenue and now the Feds will want to enforce the "new" limits at state police or state DOT weigh stations. For which they have neither the funds to do it, or the people to do it with.

I have heard of states setting up weigh checks outside of things like drag race venues and catching RV'ers in that dragnet. The contention was that RV'ers who drag race are commercial enterprises (prize $$$) and just because their RV's are not marked they're commercial too.

Could be also that MO got a one time grant to do this from the Fed's to see how it works. It'll be interesting to see how the new administration in Washington handles these shenanigans, with the push to reduce regulations and tax burdens.

Myself, I'd ignore the slight amount the OP reported he was over. Doubt the scales are that accurate in any case and a ticket for that amount would probably be thrown out by the judge anyway.

As others have noted, your safety is a bigger concern then the scale.

Maybe something like 0.001 percent of RVs have been checked for weight, until this thread I only knew about Calf and BC
BC has (a few times) stopped RVs on some of their steeper roads (BC-5) to check and weight and brakes.
Calf has (a few times) checked RVs are the border stations for weight and state of registry (looking for people with Calf DL and Montana plates)

dawzie wrote:
Concerned about being weighed. I'm 240 lbs. over gross on truck. Rear tires and axle are just under. Front axle only gained 60 lbs. Fiver axles and tires are fine.

If your concerned about your tow vehicles weights I would ask your state what your max weight requirements will be.

All vehicles on the road come under some kind of weight limits

I see mostly CA folks over in the toy hauler forum talk about getting stopped on occasion on I believe the run out to Glamis or one of the more popular spots for ORV fun in CA.

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The requirements to double tow in California:
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I have been doing it for 15 years, have been stopped and checked 2 times for proper licenses, weight, length, lights and everything else
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"Concerned about being weighed."

Be "concerned" about your safety, your family's safety and my safety. You are over weight by your own words. So if you aren't stopped and weighed you aren't overweight? Two-forty here, two-forty there and pretty soon you are 1,500 over. It's all relative!

Yes, we were at a state park in Missouri..Sunday, just outside the park, DOT was there weighing rigs...big problem was those with a 150 truck and pulling a 12,000-14,000 trailer. Mo plates are according to combined weight. truck & trailer, Plates are 12,000..18,000...24,000 & 30,000......anything over 18,000 plates must stop at a weigh station..(that was per Hwy patrol station in Lees Summit, MO)

Sounds like this is a different issue than what the OP is asking. Seems more to the type of license the truck is registered for than what it actually weighs relative to the GVWR of the tow vehicle.

I think the Hwy Patrol station in Lees Summit could be mistaken. I've been driving our Dodge with 24,000 plates for about 10 years and have never been told to stop at weigh stations, and have been stopped a few times by the Hiway Patrol in Missouri. One LEO even commented he was glad to see I had the necessary plates for the load I was hauling. Just my personal experience of course.

MODOT doesn't really care if what you're hauling is too heavy for your truck, only that you have the proper plates for it. As long as you have 24,000 plates for your F150 you'll hear nothing about whether it's safe or not to pull that 12,000 lb. 5th wheel, only whether you're legally licensed.

They won't normally stop rv's to check for weight infractions unless somebody is having handling issues or is pulling that 14,000 lb 36' with an F-150. However, there may be a serious problem if you were to be involved in an accident. An overzealous insurance adjuster could make things very difficult.

JoeGood988 wrote:
Yes, we were at a state park in Missouri..Sunday, just outside the park, DOT was there weighing rigs...big problem was those with a 150 truck and pulling a 12,000-14,000 trailer. Mo plates are according to combined weight. truck & trailer, Plates are 12,000..18,000...24,000 & 30,000......anything over 18,000 plates must stop at a weigh station..(that was per Hwy patrol station in Lees Summit, MO)

Very interesting. Which State Park in Missouri was busy enough for them to setup a check point. As in most states, Rv's are exempt from stopping.