I have a 2009 27ft Extreme Toy Hauler with 2012 Ford Super Duty Diesel. I purchased a sherline 2000 lbs. tongue scale to find out the tongue on my toy hauler, without the ATV's (Polaris 550xp & Polaris 330) I pegged the scale. When I load the two ATVs the tongue weight is 1850 lbs. I have a Reese 1700 lbs. hitch and air bags on the truck. without the toys in the trailer I have run @ 45 to 50 psi in bags to keep toy hauler level. The Ford tows and stops the trailer fine, but looking for ideas to lighten the tongue load.

Are the toys loaded in the extreme rear?

What about when its full of water/toys?

Sounds like what is happening is proper - putting more weight in the back is lightening your pin weight on the truck, which is a desirable thing.Have you tested the results from having empty water and waste tanks and fuel tanks?Generally, shifting weight to the rear of the trailer will reduce the pin weight and help your situation.

Was your water tank full? Perhaps you can empty that and lower the hitch weight a bit.The designers are thinking "Someone might load 2,500 pouns of toys 6' behind the axle, so we need to have a heavy hitch, so that after they load it up with whatever, it will still have at least 1,000 pounds of hitch weight. I think they went a little overboard with hitch weight though. To adjust, the designers really needed to place the rear axles a little closer to the hitch, so that more of the trailer weight is behind the axles, and you will then have much less hitch weight. Not much you can do about it now, except the common sense things, like put the heavy stuff in the back. If the water tank is forward of the axle, do not fill it and check the weight again.Do you have a fuel system? Is that behind or in front of the axles?What tanks are behind the axle? Can you fill them - at least part way? IF they are between or near the axle, then that weight will not really matter much.

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Mandalay_Parr
Explorer
Jul 01, 2014
Are the toys loaded in the extreme rear?
Prdonahue
Explorer
Jul 01, 2014
Yes form rear door to axles
coolbreeze01
Explorer
Jul 01, 2014
What about when its full of water/toys?
wincrasher65
Explorer
Jul 01, 2014
Sounds like what is happening is proper - putting more weight in the back is lightening your pin weight on the truck, which is a desirable thing.

Have you tested the results from having empty water and waste tanks and fuel tanks?

Generally, shifting weight to the rear of the trailer will reduce the pin weight and help your situation.
Golden_HVAC
Explorer
Jul 01, 2014
Was your water tank full? Perhaps you can empty that and lower the hitch weight a bit.

The designers are thinking "Someone might load 2,500 pouns of toys 6' behind the axle, so we need to have a heavy hitch, so that after they load it up with whatever, it will still have at least 1,000 pounds of hitch weight. I think they went a little overboard with hitch weight though. To adjust, the designers really needed to place the rear axles a little closer to the hitch, so that more of the trailer weight is behind the axles, and you will then have much less hitch weight.

Not much you can do about it now, except the common sense things, like put the heavy stuff in the back. If the water tank is forward of the axle, do not fill it and check the weight again.

Do you have a fuel system? Is that behind or in front of the axles?

What tanks are behind the axle? Can you fill them - at least part way? IF they are between or near the axle, then that weight will not really matter much.
Prdonahue
Explorer
Jul 01, 2014
I just fill the water tank (100 Gallons and tank is over axles) and now tongue weight with toys is 1800 lbs. Fuel tank is behind axles at rear and is 3/4 full about 30 gallons.
noteven
Explorer III
Jul 01, 2014
Around our outfit always having to take the toys to "balance the trailer" avoids any chance of hauling found antique/second hand/garage sale treasures/stuff home...
sljkansas
Explorer
Jul 01, 2014
Looks like your going to need a beefier Hitch also.
Ivylog
Explorer III
Jul 01, 2014
I'm glad you bought a scale to see how much tongue weight you have as I often wondered how bad it is without toys in the back. To solve your problem I would add a 50 gallon tank under the back of the trailer and use water to decrease your tongue weight.
steiny93
Explorer
Jul 02, 2014
do you have items in the extreme front which could be moved to the rear?

like quad gear / beverages / etc? in our old rig wife used to stock all the beverages in the very front of the 5er; moving multiple cases of cool ones to the extreme rear did make a noticeable difference on the pin weight