yeah I had popup years ago and had to do a couple 4x4's and a sheet of plywood at my inlaws house. Hopefully this will not be a problem. Thanks again for the input. I'm thinking of the B&W companion slider. that has 4 way tilt. might not need the slide but it would be good to have if needed. That way i don't need any special plate or wedges.Thanks ,I'll let you know if i get the 5'er in a couple weeks. Now dealer might not be able to give me the show price from Feb. So Might wait till next Feb.