I believe my landing gear are the standard Lippert type. I have the single motor system. The landing gear motor sounds like it's working way too hard to lift the front of the trailer. I have already drilled holes just above the first leg support bracket on each side and injected white lithium grease onto the leadscrew. While still on the truck, I ran the gear up and down several times and things quieted down significantly with no load on the gear. With the load of the trailer, it is definitely improved after lubing (doesn't stop and trip the breaker or break the shaft bolt). However, I think it's still moaning and groaning more than it should and the motor seems to be straining an awful lot. Before I bite the bullet and install a dual motor system (Bulldog, etc.), I thought I would try to lube the bevel gears at the tops of the legs. Can I just pry the top caps of the legs off with a screwdriver and squirt some lube down from the top?FWIW, when the bolt had sheared off on the shaft going to the trail leg, I was able to easily raise the trailer using just the lead leg (fairly quiet with little strain on the motor). Doesn't this suggest there's an issue in the trail leg?

With the top removed, you should be able to see/feel the bevel gears, as they are not far below the covers. I would just take some all purpose grease in my fingers and smear on the bevel gears.Don't you or anyone else run the gear motor, with your fingers anywhere near the gears.From your description, it does sound like the shaft driven leg has some binding going on, causing strain on the motor.Jerry

Does the 'inner leg' (pin one) slide up and down easily inside the driven leg?Yes you can just pop cover off top and lube the bevel gears.Have you measured the voltage going to landing gear motor while it is operating?Voltage drop increases amp draw and slower motor operation.

Old-Biscuit wrote:Does the 'inner leg' (pin one) slide up and down easily inside the driven leg?Yes you can just pop cover off top and lube the bevel gears.Have you measured the voltage going to landing gear motor while it is operating?Voltage drop increases amp draw and slower motor operation.The leg extension (with the holes in it) slides easily in both legs. The driven part of the leg appears to slide easily with no weight on it.I haven't measured the voltage. With the driven leg disconnected, the drive leg alone will raise the coach without much straining. From that, I assumed the motor was working fine. The extra load of the driven leg is what appears to be putting it over the edge.My plan is to lube the bevel gears on both sides. If that doesn't do it, I will remove the driven leg and tear it down. If not repairable, I'll have to decide between replacing just that leg or upgrading to a dual motor setup.

MFL wrote:Don't you or anyone else run the gear motor, with your fingers anywhere near the gears.From your description, it does sound like the shaft driven leg has some binding going on, causing strain on the motor.JerryAgreed on both counts!

Yes you should be able to see/feel & apply grease with your finger to the bevel gears, as they are not far below the covers. Your plan sounds like what I would do. I do like the dual motor set up. Measuring the voltage at the motor while lifting is also a good idea as you may have a bad connection causing voltage drop somewhere between the motor & battery. :)

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Garyl53
Explorer
Jul 22, 2016
I am fighting the same issue on my Lippert landing gear. I was searching for zerks or access points just yesterday but I found none. Please let us know how you make out with his issue. It wasn't obvious how you could pry the top off the legs but I will take another look.
Thanks
fj12ryder
Explorer III
Jul 22, 2016
The zerks don't really make much sense since they won't get grease onto the screw. Unless you pump enough grease in there to build up on the top of the inner leg, it will just clump up on the inside of the leg. Spray grease is a much better solution.

IMO these single motor systems just don't have the power to work very well with the heavier 5th wheel/toyhaulers.
Njmurvin
Explorer
Jul 22, 2016
filrupmark wrote:
Our Lippert landing gear has two zerks within 6 inches from the top on both sides.

The new ones appear to have zerks. Mine definitely has no holes whatsoever for lubing the leadscrew. I had to drill a 3/8" hole about 8" down from the top of the tube. I did this on both legs and squirted quite a bit of white lithium grease into the hole using the straw and pointing it up and down in the hole. Then I ran the gear up and down a few times with no load on it (trailer on truck). That process spreads the lube onto the leadscrew. But I don't think lube makes it to the bevel gears when you do this. That's why I want to lube them from the top.
filrupmark
Explorer
Jul 22, 2016
Our Lippert landing gear has two zerks within 6 inches from the top on both sides.
gat75
Explorer
Jul 22, 2016
Have you tried raising the trailer using the manual crank? I would try raising it while trailer is connected to TV & also try with trailer disconnected from truck. That may tell if something is binding.
tvman44
Explorer
Jul 22, 2016
Yes you should be able to see/feel & apply grease with your finger to the bevel gears, as they are not far below the covers. Your plan sounds like what I would do. I do like the dual motor set up. Measuring the voltage at the motor while lifting is also a good idea as you may have a bad connection causing voltage drop somewhere between the motor & battery. :)
Njmurvin
Explorer
Jul 22, 2016
MFL wrote:
Don't you or anyone else run the gear motor, with your fingers anywhere near the gears.

From your description, it does sound like the shaft driven leg has some binding going on, causing strain on the motor.

Jerry

Agreed on both counts!
Njmurvin
Explorer
Jul 22, 2016
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Does the 'inner leg' (pin one) slide up and down easily inside the driven leg?

Yes you can just pop cover off top and lube the bevel gears.

Have you measured the voltage going to landing gear motor while it is operating?
Voltage drop increases amp draw and slower motor operation.

The leg extension (with the holes in it) slides easily in both legs. The driven part of the leg appears to slide easily with no weight on it.

I haven't measured the voltage. With the driven leg disconnected, the drive leg alone will raise the coach without much straining. From that, I assumed the motor was working fine. The extra load of the driven leg is what appears to be putting it over the edge.

My plan is to lube the bevel gears on both sides. If that doesn't do it, I will remove the driven leg and tear it down. If not repairable, I'll have to decide between replacing just that leg or upgrading to a dual motor setup.
Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Jul 22, 2016
Does the 'inner leg' (pin one) slide up and down easily inside the driven leg?

Yes you can just pop cover off top and lube the bevel gears.

Have you measured the voltage going to landing gear motor while it is operating?
Voltage drop increases amp draw and slower motor operation.
MFL
Nomad II
Jul 22, 2016
With the top removed, you should be able to see/feel the bevel gears, as they are not far below the covers. I would just take some all purpose grease in my fingers and smear on the bevel gears.

Don't you or anyone else run the gear motor, with your fingers anywhere near the gears.

From your description, it does sound like the shaft driven leg has some binding going on, causing strain on the motor.

Jerry

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