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RoyF
Explorer
Jul 16, 2019

More tires again: Carlisle F and Sailun G

The Carlisle ST235/85R16 load range F has changed. There used to be five plies (plus three side plies) of which one was steel. Now there are seven plies (plus three side plies) of which two are steel. The maximum pressure has been increased from 80 to 95. I now have four of these on the fiver.

One of my old tires was a Sailun G with a 2013 date stamp, retired with honor after almost 60,000 miles. It was always run at 80 psi because it was overkill for my weight (5000 lb per axle) and I was running my other tires at that pressure. I thought it was wearing evenly. But I lately noticed that the outer treads of the Sailun were wearing thin, a sign of underinflation. I should have used more air in the Sailun.
  • fj12ryder's avatar
    fj12ryder
    Explorer III
    Jul 16, 2019
    Cummins12V98 wrote:
    fj12ryder wrote:
    Lantley wrote:
    Sailuns retired with honor and you chose a different brand this time around?
    If it ain't broke don't fix it.
    I'd have to agree. You switch from a tire with few known failures to a brand that has innumerable failures. Granted the new tires are supposed to be much better, but still why go from known good to possibly good?


    No different than the guys having 6 trouble free years from GY's and replacing them because they are too expensive.
    Not really. The Goodyears have had issues and are more expensive than the Sailun, which have had far fewer issues than the Goodyear. So you're going from a known decemt product to a known excellent product, and saving a boatload of money. Going from Sailun, a known good product, to a new style Carlisle, which has had serious problems in the past with its old designs, and is still a relatively unknown product.

    Full disclosure: I had 2 Carlisle tires fail catastrophically at less than 2 years old and less than 8,000 miles.
  • Cummins12V98's avatar
    Cummins12V98
    Explorer III
    Jul 16, 2019
    fj12ryder wrote:
    Lantley wrote:
    Sailuns retired with honor and you chose a different brand this time around?
    If it ain't broke don't fix it.
    I'd have to agree. You switch from a tire with few known failures to a brand that has innumerable failures. Granted the new tires are supposed to be much better, but still why go from known good to possibly good?


    No different than the guys having 6 trouble free years from GY's and replacing them because they are too expensive.
  • laknox's avatar
    laknox
    Nomad
    Jul 16, 2019
    FWIW, I ran 2 sets of Carlisles on my old Komfort without a problem. It was sold wtih the 2nd set on them, 5 years old, and still looking good with minimal weathering. They =were= upsized to E's from the placarded D tires and I always ran them at 80 psi. They also had an 80+ mph rating, so my usual 62-65 mph was a piece of cake for them. I'd certainly look at them again.

    Lyle
  • fj12ryder's avatar
    fj12ryder
    Explorer III
    Jul 16, 2019
    Lantley wrote:
    Sailuns retired with honor and you chose a different brand this time around?
    If it ain't broke don't fix it.
    I'd have to agree. You switch from a tire with few known failures to a brand that has innumerable failures. Granted the new tires are supposed to be much better, but still why go from known good to possibly good?
  • midnightsadie's avatar
    midnightsadie
    Explorer II
    Jul 16, 2019
    carlisle will never sell me a tire ,they should stay in the lawn mower tire business. there king in the tire failure book.
  • Lantley's avatar
    Lantley
    Nomad
    Jul 16, 2019
    Sailuns retired with honor and you chose a different brand this time around?
    If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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