Well mama wants the sabre. The only thing holding me to the jayco is its reputation otherwise I love the sabre also. We really don't need the half bath either in the jayco vs the pantry. Most of the camping we do is extended weekends at state campgrounds so most of the time we take the walk or bike ride to the closest campground bathroom. Right now we will be pulling it with an 02 F250 7.3 diesel crew cab but we will be upgrading in a couple years to a bigger 350 dually. I know we are on the upper end of our towing capacity with these two models but the next year or two we don't plan on going more then 3 hours away with what we have. Once we upgrade not only in truck size but also age we will be doing some extended stay trips further out of state. I have a gooseneck trailer that I pull a farm tractor to shows and tractor pulls that easily weighs in at 13k GVW and the truck handles it fine. But I am also in flatter land in Wisconsin then many of you out west. I wouldn't think of going in the mountains with this combination.
