New for 2019?

I'm still surprised that =some= manufacturer hasn't come up with at least a semi-off-grid FW, if not a full off-road/off-grid one. IMO, there seems to be a real trend of people wanting to get =out= of campgrounds. Larger tanks, for one, would be a necessity; full-on solar capability; more power storage options; better suspension, to name just a few things.

Lyle

RickLIght wrote:
LED has been getting into everything. I work in lighting and I'm happy to see it. The industry is seeing a true revolution!

For automotive systems LEDs are ideal; small, efficient, DC power, not fragile. The best way is with new fixtures rather than retrifit bulbs. And don't settle for ugly blueish light, there no need for it to be that way.

And for 'dockers, the massively reduced power consumption is nice, too!

Lyle

So being that I just bought a new 19.5 Cedar Creek, I can talk a little bit about the three or four campers that were in the final running. So for Montana, we had a HighCountry 330RL, versus Montana 3120 RL. For Forest River, we had the Cardinal Luxury 3456 RL.

So the High Country got us wanting to go fifth wheel over a diesel pusher. We love the double single and large bathroom configuration. Ultimate I left high country because of the cable slides. Then the Montana was passed over because it didn’t have a double sink.

So then it was Cardinal Versus Cedar Creek Hathaway 34IK. Cardinal was the clear winner for the inside finish, and just a crazy beautiful Coach. But it’s unloaded weight was a 1000 lbs more and it was about 2.5 feet longer and I want to stay under 15000 fully loaded with my Ram 2018 3500 CC SB SRW HO.

The price was within $500 for the Montana versus the Creek. They are direct competitors. Another thing that Creek done for us is put a booth dinette in. It’s not an option on most fifth wheels. I don’t understand that because a lot of motorhome, that’s what you get.

The Creek is gorgeous and since we got the 19.5 model year it does rival the Cardinal for crazy beautiful and as I was taking delivery I was kind of blown away with everything.

I do like the Creek construction and several of the owners club have towed larger Creeks over 100000 miles. So double sink, Morryde steps, 360 degree lighting, stainless furrion appliances, and the Creek wiring system is very cool. Fit and finish are excellent and even though there has been some customers that aren’t happy. There’s a lot of evidence that the manufacturer is keeping care of it’s owners.

Mike

bucky wrote:
Be aware that you may not be able to open fixed swing out and down steps in storage lots and some campgrounds where obstructions don't allow to swing fully. Not to mention pouring debris or water onto your interior floor when closing.

You WILL NOT pour debris or water when closing the steps...

A LITTLE common sense WILL BE NEEDED though...

Are these no steps going to be on all 5ers now?

We are seeing the new steps but now that I get a good look and give it some thought we have the best for us.

chevman

We bought last year at the show.

We have the spark oven from Furrion. First time we used it had a hard time regulating temperature. Bought a stone to fit in bottom of oven much better at holding temperature.

We have the Moryde steps as well. Pros and cons are about even. Great stability wise. Great walking up and down. Nowhere as shaky as traditional steps.

Downside dirt and moisture gets inside when stowing steps. Can't open in tight spaces, like in storage lots. Need to level before putting steps out. Other wise can force steps to interfere with door opening and closing.

DutchmenSport wrote:
One thing that seems to be a hot item right now are the MoRyde style entry steps opposed to the traditional folding RV steps.

Be aware that you may not be able to open fixed swing out and down steps in storage lots and some campgrounds where obstructions don't allow to swing fully. Not to mention pouring debris or water onto your interior floor when closing.

LED has been getting into everything. I work in lighting and I'm happy to see it. The industry is seeing a true revolution!

For automotive systems LEDs are ideal; small, efficient, DC power, not fragile. The best way is with new fixtures rather than retrifit bulbs. And don't settle for ugly blueish light, there no need for it to be that way.

Outdoors RV and Grand Design just introduced new travel trailer toy haulers.
Pretty innovative for both.

https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2019/toy-hauler/momentum-g-class-travel-trailer/floorplans/28g

https://www.thompsonrvinc.com/default.asp?page=xNewInventoryDetail&id=6083322&p=1&make=outdoors%20rv&vc=toy%20hauler&s=Year&d=D&fr=xNewInventory

http://outdoorsrvmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Specs-for-Trail-Series.pdf

Ooops I see I was in the 5th wheel thread.