Newbie Looking for a New 5ver
I have a 2013 F-250 supercrew 4x4 SRW, GVWR-10,000#. Put it on the scales, weighs 8,280#, that's with full tank of diesel, 2 adults, 2 kids, and 3 overnight bags. Looking for a new 5th wheel, budget...
Forum Discussion
I see no one has really answered your questions specifically.
1. I have never seen or heard of anyone being pulled over or punished by law enforcement for being over the GVWR of the tow vehicle. Has anyone here?
2. This is the weight that is constantly up for debate. Some people go by the GVWR of the tow vehicle and recommend not to go over that. Some people go by the RAWR (Rear Axle Weight Rating) of the tow vehicle which in most all pickups is limited by the Max Load Capacity of the rear tires. Because most original SRW truck tires have a load rating of around 3000lbs each. The pickup's RAWR is usually between 6000 and 6100 lbs. Normally the actual weight sitting on the rear axle of an unloaded pickup is around 3000lbs, depending on what you've loaded it up with, including the 5th wheel hitch. Again, using very loose numbers, this, in turn would leave approximately 3000 lbs for hitch weight to be carried safely by the rear axle using standard tires and using the RAWR for weight capacity. Safely installing tires with higher load ratings (Load Range E for example), you can arguably raise your RAWR since the axle itself is rated for much higher weights.
3. This is up to you depending on how you go with question #2. I think if you stay within a 12K - 13K lbs loaded trailer, with not an especially heavy pin, you would be fine. That will keep your pin at around 2000lbs +/- 200 lbs, which would still be within your RAWR, that is if you choose to use the RAWR for your load capacity on the truck.
1. I have never seen or heard of anyone being pulled over or punished by law enforcement for being over the GVWR of the tow vehicle. Has anyone here?
2. This is the weight that is constantly up for debate. Some people go by the GVWR of the tow vehicle and recommend not to go over that. Some people go by the RAWR (Rear Axle Weight Rating) of the tow vehicle which in most all pickups is limited by the Max Load Capacity of the rear tires. Because most original SRW truck tires have a load rating of around 3000lbs each. The pickup's RAWR is usually between 6000 and 6100 lbs. Normally the actual weight sitting on the rear axle of an unloaded pickup is around 3000lbs, depending on what you've loaded it up with, including the 5th wheel hitch. Again, using very loose numbers, this, in turn would leave approximately 3000 lbs for hitch weight to be carried safely by the rear axle using standard tires and using the RAWR for weight capacity. Safely installing tires with higher load ratings (Load Range E for example), you can arguably raise your RAWR since the axle itself is rated for much higher weights.
3. This is up to you depending on how you go with question #2. I think if you stay within a 12K - 13K lbs loaded trailer, with not an especially heavy pin, you would be fine. That will keep your pin at around 2000lbs +/- 200 lbs, which would still be within your RAWR, that is if you choose to use the RAWR for your load capacity on the truck.
