I towed my Cedar Creek with the pin box extender for two years with my short bed 2003 Ram. I removed it when I bought my current truck a long bed. They work as advertised. New the cost is around $400 and eliminate the need for a slider. Turned the truck to the extreme and never hit the cab. I recommend them as an alternative to the slider hitch. One word of caution though, remove your factory tail gate and run without one or replace with a fabric one. On an extreme angle you could hit the top of your tail gate. I know.