Rear kitchens = porpoising?

I have access to the fridge, bathroom and bedroom with slides in. Can't get to stove, microwave, or the nightstand on my side of the bed. Everything else is available.

alboy wrote:
Dont eliminate a plan because the fridge is blocked.In most cases in less than 10 sec your in there.Your on holidays and not in a race.

So true! Our frig is blocked with the slide, problem solved wit small ice chest in the TV.

To the OP's question, I will that you just need to watch your pin weight! We have a RK and to help always travel with the FW tank full as it is forward of the axles. Low pin weight and nose high will be more of an issue then RK.

alboy wrote:
We originally eliminated most plans where the fridge was not immediately accessible,ended up with a rear kitchen ,fridge blocked on the curb side.Just saying after 60000 miles later it has never been a problem or issue.Love the plan when we are set up,pros /cons to most every setup.

Whew! What a relief!! It has been hard enough to find a FP that we like, let alone, trying to find one where the fridge is accessible as well! There are soooooooooooooo many plans where the fridges are NOT accessible....more so than the accessible ones! Trying to meet every criteria has become so stressful, that I have felt like giving up!

We don't have children, so if we need something from the fridge, we can wait to pull over into a large pkg lot. OR...as we already have been doing when we make shopping trips out of town...put everything we need in a cooler in our driving vehicle. That way, we don't even have to stop. I just reach into the cooler as we travel down the road for food, drinks, etc. I don't know why I didn't think about this before, since we do it all the time already! Duh!! :R

We originally eliminated most plans where the fridge was not immediately accessible,ended up with a rear kitchen ,fridge blocked on the curb side.Just saying after 60000 miles later it has never been a problem or issue.Love the plan when we are set up,pros /cons to most every setup.

alboy wrote:
Dont eliminate a plan because the fridge is blocked.In most cases in less than 10 sec your in there.Your on holidays and not in a race.

Yes, but you have to determine what is best for your lifestyle. For us, in our previous RV which was a TT, with the slide in the fridge was blocked. When we travel, we stop overnight with truckers, so having a floor plan to access everything, including the fridge, was top priority for us.

alboy wrote:
Dont eliminate a plan because the fridge is blocked.In most cases in less than 10 sec your in there.Your on holidays and not in a race.

Good thought , but it's not always about the time.... MOST of the time , the fridge that is not accessable is on the street side... I am NOT ready to put my street side slide out ( into traffic) just to get drinks if on the side of the road....

Been traveling with kids for a long time, it happens..

Dont eliminate a plan because the fridge is blocked.In most cases in less than 10 sec your in there.Your on holidays and not in a race.

travelnutz wrote:
janegowest,

Ahead to 2016 and just for some examples:

Jayco makes an Eagle line RK travel trailer model: 306RKDS that is totally usable with the slide in if it has the table a chair dinette or have them cutoff the countertop "L" overhang roughly 5 or so 5" with the booth dinette. Overall length of 34'5".

In 5th wheels: A lighter weight Eagle HT 5th wheel RK model totally usable with the slides in model: Eagle HT 27.5RKDS. A lower profile 5th wheel (147").

A heavier weight high profile (155") RK model is the Eagle 293RKDS. Fully usable with the slides in.

There's 3 choices and I really don't know what you are looking for, so I guessing.

We have personally been inside all these Jayco models and they are well insulated and good construction. Built in Middlebury, Indiana roughly 120 miles south of our West Michigan home.

I have the 2016 brochure in front of me.

Thank you for your suggestions! Interestingly, I was at Camping World yesterday and looked at a few Jaycos! I saw the Eagle HT 27.5RKDS. Nice and bright! However, I have not gotten over wanting a W/D, and there was barely any room for clothing, so I passed on it.

The Eagle 293RKDS is larger, but I do not like the sink so close to the stove. Jayco Northpoint has an spacious kitchen layout with W/D connections, but I guess the fridge would not be accessible with slides in. Whew!!! Soooo many things to think about!! Very stressful shopping for an RV!!

There are some fine RV dealerships and also some that should be out of business as in CLOSED! I'd like the manufacturer to screen dealerships better as they are so often who turns off a perspective purchaser of the manufacturer's RV's. Yes some salespersons do lie to try and make a sale and some have no clue about what they are selling or it's features or the real good and bad of the product.

An honest knowledgeable RV salesman will have a built up good following he's created by his straight talking and making his RV buyers happy before and after the sale and by giving the true facts because he knows them. Also answers all the perspective buyer's questions honestly and truthfully or will find the answers if he doesn't already know them. That way he becomes smarter himself too. Remember that if enough people do not buy from a salesman, the salesman doesn't make much of a living and will quit or be let go. Dead wood cannot be tolerated in any business and especially not in today's world! Self explanatory as to why there's a very high turnover in RV and other products sales persons.

I had owned a very good business for nearly 40 years and seen this scenario play out over and over and over.

janegowest wrote:

dedmiston wrote:
A talk show I listen to has a feature called "Stupid or Liar?". It kind of doesn't matter which one it is.

Imagine how much weight is in the rear of a fifth wheel toy hauler. A fridge, sink, stove, etc. can't weigh more than the motorcycles and sand cars loaded inside the toy haulers. And they tow just fine.

Stupid or Liar?

I suppose that it would be a mixture of both. I would say that liars are not truly smart, if they have to resort to lying to have their way, since it will bite them at the end. It is always smarter to be truthful, as that will reap benefits in the long run. Liars can't think beyond the moment...honest people have the future in mind.

If I had to avoid lying salemen, I guess I will not be able to buy a trailer....any suggestions?

Jane - a lot of RV salesmen are not really liars - simply not very knowledgeable.
Often RV sales is *not* a career job - turn-over is frequent and often......take your pick!

Suggestions: Visit dealers and shows where the sales "team" allow you to go through the RVs at your leisure - BY YOURSELF.

Nothing worse than having someone leaning over your shoulder telling you about the features *they* think are what you need/want.

Then - if/when you have questions, ask the salesperson who is patiently(?) waiting outside.

If they don't handle it that way - go elsewhere.

Even then - you will run into "glitches":

Example:
When looking for the REAR KITCHEN Jayco we had seen on the Jayco website in 2005, we went to a large RV dealer in So. CA who carried Jayco products.
Nice, well dressed, young salesman took us out to look through the only two models they had on the lot (not the RK we were looking for).
No problem with us perusing the units while he waited outside.

When I asked about the "new" RK model we were interested in, he said there was NO SUCH FLOORPLAN.
Told him it was on the jayco website, - go have a look!

His response was, "I'm not allowed to do that, we have an internet person who handles those things".

Me - "OK, go ask HIM to do that!"

Reply - "He's not here today".

Bought the "stealth model" we were looking for - elsewhere.

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Pomona (CA) RV show.
First some "insight".......not every dealer of any given RV line will be there - even though they may be close by.
Maybe it's a pay to play, not invited or whatever.

Anyway - I would go on (say a Friday) by myself. Often, some want you to "sign in" before going through the unit/s on display and/or "allowing" you to have a brochure!

I become "Chuck Roast" or? at a fictitious address.
I tell them I am looking for floor plans I like, and will return the next day with the DW - which is usually true.

At one dealer's display, I asked a roving salesperson if I could have a brochure (the supply of same I had already spotted in a trlr compt).
The salesperson said it was his first day, and admitted he didn't know where any brochures for the brand's models were located.

Ahhhh......let me help you out - there's a stack of 'em over here!..:):R

Anyway - collect the floor plan brochures you like, narrow your choices, then go shopping (again).

*If* you are willing to order what you want, *YOU* are in the driver's seat (even in a trailer, LOL!). Shop far and wide for your best price - THEN - if you prefer a dealer close(er) to home, see if they will compete with your benchmark price.

Gotta have one right now - off the lot? Be ready to negotiate, but you still can use the "order it" price as a negotiating tool.

BTW - still have the RK, no dishes problems - although it did ride harder when I switched to LT tires.

Good luck!..:)

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