ST Tires ???

fj12ryder wrote:

ilvtravln wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Just curious why you would go back to ST tires. Have you had issues with the LT tires you've been using? Personally the only ST tire I would ever buy would be a Sailun.

I have Michelin Ribs, no problems, but the ST tires have a thicker sidewall so that is why I am considering them. Axles are 6K.

I can only rely on what I've seen when comparing ST tires to tires I replaced them with, which at that time were LT tires. The ST tires I took off, Carlisle ST 235/85-16, had such flimsy sidewalls that, with it dismounted from the wheel, you could basically collapse the tire by simply sitting on it.

One of the boasts that you seem to hear is that ST tires have stronger sidewalls, but that hasn't been borne out by what I've seen.

And if you've had good luck with LT tires, why change? You know the old saying: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I would stick with a known quantity. JMO of course.

The thought did cross my mind, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" The Michelin Ribs I have are 9 years old and doing well.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Terryallan wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
I don’t care what they are called the GY ENDURANCE has a stellar record.

But it is still relatively new. Only been out 2 years or so? Launched Feb 2017.. Not really enough time to have a comparable record. They may well be great tires. Only time will tell.

but for now. Maxxis seems to have the best longevity record.

Two years and eight months. Show me a non road hazard failure.

Cherry on top it’s a US Made tire.

If you read my post. You saw I Didn't say anything bad about them. just said they were to new to have a really good comparison. By your standard. Marathons were good. After all. mine lasted 3 YEARS, AND 2 months before they scattered themselves all over the highway. As were my Tow Masters.. almost THE EXACT same time of service.

after 4 or 5 years we will have a good feel of how good they are. Just not enough time yet.

ilvtravln wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Just curious why you would go back to ST tires. Have you had issues with the LT tires you've been using? Personally the only ST tire I would ever buy would be a Sailun.

I have Michelin Ribs, no problems, but the ST tires have a thicker sidewall so that is why I am considering them. Axles are 6K.

I can only rely on what I've seen when comparing ST tires to tires I replaced them with, which at that time were LT tires. The ST tires I took off, Carlisle ST 235/85-16, had such flimsy sidewalls that, with it dismounted from the wheel, you could basically collapse the tire by simply sitting on it.

One of the boasts that you seem to hear is that ST tires have stronger sidewalls, but that hasn't been borne out by what I've seen.

And if you've had good luck with LT tires, why change? You know the old saying: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I would stick with a known quantity. JMO of course.

fj12ryder wrote:
Just curious why you would go back to ST tires. Have you had issues with the LT tires you've been using? Personally the only ST tire I would ever buy would be a Sailun.

I have Michelin Ribs, no problems, but the ST tires have a thicker sidewall so that is why I am considering them. Axles are 6K.

tomman58 wrote:
Does anyone have a clue how often tires have been discussed on this site????? It has to be over 100.

So what hasn't been discussed many, many times? A brand new subject is very rare. It's why forums tend to languish after a lot of years. Shoot, go to any auto forum, and you'll see the same thing, or any motorcycle forum, or race forum. Any forum that has lasted more than a couple years generally has the same questions asked and answered.

That's one of the nice things about the "Hide" function: you can easily ignore any post you don't want to read. Works a treat.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

ScottG wrote:
Another vote for GY Endurance. They've been around long enough for me and their record is excellent regarding blowouts and failures.
The only thing I don't like about them is they are subject to rock mining, where a sharp rock will burrow all the way down to the cords. Most tires wont do this but mine have several places where I can see the silver cords after removing rocks.

Have you contacted GY about the rock issue? Just over two years on mine on boat trailer with no issue like that. In and out of gravel nearly every day in the Summer at boat launches.

I also tow at 70 where possible.

I haven't contacted them.
FWIW, I'm not sure you can see the damage without getting a straight on view of them. I saw it when I took them all off for balancing.
Frankly, I don't want to deal with GY. They cheated me bad when I was a very young man and couldn't afford it. 30+ years later I stopped in to another GY with a nail in my tire and they tried to tell me it wasn't repairable (I knew better) and tried hard to sell me 4 new tires I didn't need. Took it to Les Schwab and they explained how it was well within the area they could repair. I got a couple more years of service out of that set of tires.
So I really have zero faith in GY and while I might get a new set of Endurance from them some day, I'll also look close at other options.

tomman58 wrote:
Does anyone have a clue how often tires have been discussed on this site????? It has to be over 100.

It's an evolving subject!

Does anyone have a clue how often tires have been discussed on this site????? It has to be over 100.

Me Again wrote:

laknox wrote:


Why? We don't even know what FW the OP has. Unless he's got a 15k+ rig, why not stick with a good E rated LT like a Michelin Rib or Bridgestone Duravis?

Lyle

A little searching of his posts shows
"We have an 09 Bighorn 3370" That model has a 14K GVWR. I agree on Sailun's for tires. Run them at 80-85 PSI.

Let's assume the RV has 20% pin that is 11,200# on the 4 tires, even less with a higher pin. So that is 2,800# per tire. WHY go to a "G" rated tire when an "E" with a stellar reputation has MORE than enough capacity in every 16" tire they offer?

When you are on the edge as your "E" is maxed out I can see going to a "G" as I did on our Avion Platinum.

guidry wrote:
After having tire problems I ended moving up to G load range, Hartland tires from Discount Tires. Great tires and good price.

Return at 4 years or sooner to let us know how the Chinese Tires worked out.