Swivel Wheels

Francesca Knowles wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

poncho62 wrote:
Pretty sure its considered a trailer. Things like that tend to bounce a lot and you would want to keep a good eye on the wheel bearings

I've seen lots of debate over this issue. I've even seen a manufacturer (can't remember which) state that it doesn't qualify as a trailer but they never showed official documentation.

There's a single bit of (supposed) State-of-Idaho documentation floating around specific only to the Idaho Tote. Link to letter

But it uses the language "bolted/permanently attached to RV" in its assertion that the unit is simply an add-on. Dunno how a receiver-type arrangement would be perceived, even there.

use bolts instead of a pin and clip through the receiver mount...now it is bolted and permanent...

I know there has been considerable debate about whether or not this type of appurtenance is a trailer...but if the unit is welded or bolted in more than one location...it fit's no ones definition of a "trailer" except some dopey DOT officer...I would fight any ticket received under those circumstances...

Regards

IMO the swivel wheel trailer would have to weigh well over a ton to do something like that.

I'd have to see the 5th wheel and swivel-wheel trailer before I'd buy into that story. My Smart Trailer weighed 1200 lbs. and when hooked up it took 40 lbs. off the pin weight.

I had some work done on my FW last week, and was talking to the shop owner about these. He did say that he knew of at least one instance where someone put a swivel-wheel carrier on his FW and it =unweighted= the pin to the point where the FW started wandering at about 50-55 mph; enough so that the guy had to stop and go home. Also, they =are= specifically considered trailers in some states. Have seen a few posts with local statutes posted.

Lyle

valhalla360 wrote:

poncho62 wrote:
Pretty sure its considered a trailer. Things like that tend to bounce a lot and you would want to keep a good eye on the wheel bearings

I've seen lots of debate over this issue. I've even seen a manufacturer (can't remember which) state that it doesn't qualify as a trailer but they never showed official documentation.

There's a single bit of (supposed) State-of-Idaho documentation floating around specific only to the Idaho Tote. Link to letter

But it uses the language "bolted/permanently attached to RV" in its assertion that the unit is simply an add-on. Dunno how a receiver-type arrangement would be perceived, even there.

Howdy!

Take a look at Idaho Tote. We carried a Yamaha Rhino on ours for years before we purchased a Smart Car which we also carried on the Tote. It will handle the weight of athe RZ without a problem.

Idaho Tote

"Happy Trails"
Chiefneon

Thank you all for the advice. There is lots to consider. I just do not want to sell my RZR if possible.

Dave

Talked to a guy who had one. Had two BMW motorcycles on it. He really liked it. Said it was considered part of the trailer. Was pulling his trailer/swivel wheel with a MDT. Was a nice set up.

poncho62 wrote:
Pretty sure its considered a trailer. Things like that tend to bounce a lot and you would want to keep a good eye on the wheel bearings

I've seen lots of debate over this issue. I've even seen a manufacturer (can't remember which) state that it doesn't qualify as a trailer but they never showed official documentation.

Because it is pinned at two points and cannot pivot relative to the main trailer, it functions as part of the main trailer. Will that hold up when the officer pulls out his book of tickets...?

But as someone else said, there aren't a lot of stories about people getting pulled over with these attachements.

Seems to be varying opinions on whether it is a trailer or an extension to the trailer it is connected to. Could be an interpretation problem in states that do not allow towing a second trailer. But have not read where anyone has been stopped for it. But then you don't see very many of them either.

But keep in mind it does add considerable tail swing to the trailer. Be careful you don't scrape someone on a turn if you choose to try it.

They don't bounce too badly when loaded since they have rudimentary suspension. I had no issue with wheel bearings but only had it about 4 years and maybe 20,000 miles.

Actually the one I had could have the wheels locked under the trailer so it could be set upright against the wall without blocking if so desired. I just left it hooked up to the 5th wheel.