My husband and I are looking at upgrading from our TT to a 5th Wheel Toyhauler (newer badass truck means newer badass trailer right?).So it's just the two of us, and our dogs. We don't have a lot of toys, YET. So we're looking for a modest/smaller sized toy hauler. We looked at a few and a lot of the haulers at the smaller end of size still have a wall along the back third of the trailer that separates the "garage" from the rest of the trailer and, for our use, unnecessarily makes the space less useable. Anyone know of good manufacturers who don't have that wall? So far only found Forest River.Anyone know how much structural integrity that wall adds? Is it possible to customize a trailer and take it out?

My impression is that they almost all have walls, but have at least a single door in the wall. So you could use the space for storage/dogs etc. A friend of mine recently bought a Lance toyhauler that he really likes. It's a TT rather than a 5th wheel, but Lance makes a good trailer.

Originally the majority of toy haulers did not have walls. Especially in the western states Cali and Az that is a pretty popular design because they are hauling SxS's and sand cars. More recently people started to prefer the wall because of concerns over gas smell and dirt in the living area. Some brands to look at are Genisis, and Rage'n if you looking new and used there are a lot of Rage'n, weekend warrior and several other brands. In many cases models can be ordered with or without the wall. I can tell you after having non garage (Wall less) toyhaulers for the last 12 years or so that is def the design I prefer. We have 4 quads to haul and it is nice to have the space when it is raining or cold outside.

I don't have an answer but, I do have a question. Why is the wall a problem?If the wall is structural, you could just install a larger door and/or remove the door from the hinges.If you put power toys in the garage, it will like parking your motorcycle in the living room. (I know, some people do it), just curious. I think the garage wall would be beneficial.Never mind, tchil answered my question. :)

tchil wrote:Originally the majority of toy haulers did not have walls. Especially in the western states Cali and Az that is a pretty popular design because they are hauling SxS's and sand cars. More recently people started to prefer the wall because of concerns over gas smell and dirt in the living area. Some brands to look at are Genisis, and Rage'n if you looking new and used there are a lot of Rage'n, weekend warrior and several other brands. In many cases models can be ordered with or without the wall. I can tell you after having non garage (Wall less) toyhaulers for the last 12 years or so that is def the design I prefer. We have 4 quads to haul and it is nice to have the space when it is raining or cold outside.Yep, no other way to get four full size quads in a 30-32ft TH. Most of the smaller ones that have walls ended up with 10ft of garage.

I know KZ has a small TH without a wall a 265 model.

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coolmom42
Explorer II
Oct 12, 2015
My impression is that they almost all have walls, but have at least a single door in the wall. So you could use the space for storage/dogs etc.

A friend of mine recently bought a Lance toyhauler that he really likes. It's a TT rather than a 5th wheel, but Lance makes a good trailer.
tchil
Explorer
Oct 12, 2015
Originally the majority of toy haulers did not have walls. Especially in the western states Cali and Az that is a pretty popular design because they are hauling SxS's and sand cars. More recently people started to prefer the wall because of concerns over gas smell and dirt in the living area. Some brands to look at are Genisis, and Rage'n if you looking new and used there are a lot of Rage'n, weekend warrior and several other brands. In many cases models can be ordered with or without the wall. I can tell you after having non garage (Wall less) toyhaulers for the last 12 years or so that is def the design I prefer. We have 4 quads to haul and it is nice to have the space when it is raining or cold outside.
gbopp
Explorer
Oct 12, 2015
I don't have an answer but, I do have a question. Why is the wall a problem?

If the wall is structural, you could just install a larger door and/or remove the door from the hinges.

If you put power toys in the garage, it will like parking your motorcycle in the living room. (I know, some people do it), just curious. I think the garage wall would be beneficial.

Never mind, tchil answered my question. :)
Vulcanmars
Explorer
Oct 12, 2015
tchil wrote:
Originally the majority of toy haulers did not have walls. Especially in the western states Cali and Az that is a pretty popular design because they are hauling SxS's and sand cars. More recently people started to prefer the wall because of concerns over gas smell and dirt in the living area. Some brands to look at are Genisis, and Rage'n if you looking new and used there are a lot of Rage'n, weekend warrior and several other brands. In many cases models can be ordered with or without the wall. I can tell you after having non garage (Wall less) toyhaulers for the last 12 years or so that is def the design I prefer. We have 4 quads to haul and it is nice to have the space when it is raining or cold outside.

Yep, no other way to get four full size quads in a 30-32ft TH. Most of the smaller ones that have walls ended up with 10ft of garage.
colliehauler
Explorer III
Oct 12, 2015
I know KZ has a small TH without a wall a 265 model.
N-Trouble
Explorer
Oct 12, 2015
I prefer an open floor plan and really like my Eclipse Attitude 28SAG with slideout. Only 9klb dry tows great with any 3/4 ton and can get in/out about anywhere. Can get a lot of toys in it with 17' of storage space and have never had an issue with fuel/fumes.

And that wall is not load bearing so does not add any structural integrity to the trailer.
Geno92308
Explorer
Oct 12, 2015
I like my open plan attitude 27 cbg. The 28 sag has a walk around bed and is a 5er. The cbg has pass through storage but is a trailer.

I had confused the sag with the ibg model.
N-Trouble
Explorer
Oct 12, 2015
Geno92308 wrote:
I like my open plan attitude 27 cbg. The 28 sag has a walk around bed. The cbg has pass through storage. Both are trailers not 5ers.

28SAG is a 5th wheel. http://www.eclipservmfg.com/Attitude
DanB-ON
Explorer
Oct 13, 2015
The new Weekend Warrior makes a fairly large non seperated unit.

Also keep in mind in most without the closed off garage you won't have the nice opposing slides for a huge living room, and will not gain as much space as you think you will.

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Strabo
Explorer
Oct 13, 2015
Yup...Forest River Sand Sport 32' double axle open concept. Plenty of cargo room, 18' to first cab, wide body.

Our hauler gets a new awning in a week, she deserves it for sure!!!