Truly lite toy hauler

The number I am working with is the MLTW figure. That is trailer alone. The van has it's own gross weight which I am also working against, but is separate and added to the gross overall limit. I have done as much research as possible. My limiting factor is not the van gross limits which I am well within. It is the MLTW that I have a problem with. My van's GCWR is 11200. I am hoping for some headroom in the trailer and prefer not to run at the limit. But that has been hard to find.

My BIL had a Carson Rebel. Not sure if they still make them but it would fit your weight requirements. We modified the cabinets and he was able to haul a VW powered sand rail.

discovery4us wrote:
My BIL had a Carson Rebel. Not sure if they still make them but it would fit your weight requirements. We modified the cabinets and he was able to haul a VW powered sand rail.

Yes they still make them, though
Carson Rebel

Mickeyfan0805 wrote:

avgjoetx wrote:
I am hoping someone here has gone through this exercise and can help me out.

I have been searching for a toy hauler that I can pull with my Transit which has a 4500lb max loaded trailer weight. I want to Haul a 1100lb UTV. That leaves a max Dry trailer weight of 3400lbs.

Does anyone know of a <3400lb dry toy hauler? The only one I have found is the Livin Lite and it seems they have stopped production. Travel Lite has one that is close but the toy area is too small. Has anyone found other options?

Thanks!

I hate to be a downer, but please check your understanding of weights - I don't think these numbers add up the way you think they do. The 4,500 max, if accurate, accounts for absolutely nothing in the Transit except (maybe) a standard (ie - 150lb or so) driver. Are you the only one in the Transit? Are there other passengers? Is there any gear? Fido? Also, are you going to have no gear, fluids, or food in the trailer? Any propane? Fresh Water? Tools and gear for the UTV?

People have different perspectives on the importance of staying within weights, but buying a trailer that weighs 3,400 dry is not going to keep you within ratings - there are many other things that come into play. I would bet that, with a 3,400 dry toy hauler, you'd be upwards of 1,000 pounds overweight the first time you rolled out!

Trailer towing ratings have nothing to do with the weight of the passengers. That's included and calculated in the GVWR, payload and tow capacity are not relative and the towing capacity. THE ONLY thing a trailer can contribute to the GVWR is the tongue weight

EDIT to add GCVWR is the sum of the two

pfunk wrote:


EDIT to add GCVWR is the sum of the two

And this is precisely why passenger weight absolutely matters in tow ratings. The max trailer weight of a vehicle is a simple mathematical equation of the GCVWR minus the curb weight of the truck (plus, in some cases, a driver). When you add additional weight to the tow vehicle, that weight counts against the GCVWR, and thus reduces the amount of trailer you can tow.

Example...

An 7,850 pound truck with a 150 pound driver and a GCVWR of 20,000 pounds will have a max trailer weight of 12,000 pounds. Add 800 pounds of passengers and gear to that truck, and the truck now weighs 8,800 pounds - meaning the max trailer weight is now 11,200.

GWolfe wrote:
There is the Wolf Pup 17R but it may not have enough room.

Wolf Pup

The wolf pup is close. 100lbs too heavy.

Bedlam wrote:
You may be better off with an enclosed trailer with aluminum chassis and adding minimal living quarters to it. This link has some ideas for enclosed trailer conversions: http://www.tnttt.com/

Have you considered converting the Transit to to be your living space?

I have been simultaneously looking at exactly that. Thanks for the link!!! I have already converted my van to minimal living. My mid roof wagon just won't fit a shower and the cassette toilet is less than ideal in campgrounds. So I mostly need a decent bathroom in the trailer and conversion to bedroom when unloaded. I would MUCH rather someone else build it. So far, the folks at Dune are the only ones to come up with a workable plan. But it is steel/wood. I would prefer all aluminum and have almost given up on all steel frame options. But I want to explore all options before pulling the trigger.