TT to a 5Th Wheel

BarneyS wrote:

avvidclif1 wrote:
Notice most of the Pro TT are using a TT. That's fine but what are they doing in a 5th wheel group??? Defending their choice???

I will never own another TT after going to a 5th wheel.

I'm here because I moderate this forum. :B
Barney

Grin, I learned a new term this week, Yooper. That would make you a Troll. Never heard either before.

Our TT has the same storage as a 5er,The same high ceilings in the living area and I still have the full use of my truck bed. The hitch weight is heavy for a TT but I have absolutely No sway issues.
I will never go to a 5er as long as I have this unit.

BarneyS wrote:

N-Trouble wrote:

IdaD wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Even at 30' to 33' a 5er is a big advantage, FAR more stable, inherently more stable!! With a TT even with a Hensley when the deification hits the rotary oscillator, the true pivot point is still 3' to 4' behind the rear axle! That will push the back one way and force the front the other way. I took too many engineering classes in school.

The step issue, I partly solved our issues by adding steps! Made each step smaller. added a step into the bedroom level and replace the three step entrance with a four step that all the risers are the same height.

Some of the TT guys swear up and down that the Hensley type hitches make their travel trailers tow the same as fifth wheels and those statements have never made sense to me. I guess I've never tried to understand the physics of it, but at the end of the day it seems to me that your physical attachment point is still 4' behind the rear axle and your travel trailer is still lighter on the tongue than a fifth wheel is on the pin. But I admit I've never used that kind of a hitch.

Those are TT guys that have never towed a 5er.

Not true! I have done both and the TT with the Hensley tows every bit as well as the 5er ever did.

Those that do not understand how this is possible might want to take a long look at, and study this thread. :)
Engineering classes notwithstanding, the true pivot point is never 3' to 4' behind the rear axle.
Barney

X2^^

As mentioned in my first post. The towing advantage of the 5'er is overstated. My 39" 11K GVW TT towed just as well as my current 5'er.
It did take a lot more effort to get the TT dialed in. But once I discovered the Hensley my TT was rock solid. Just as solid as my 5'er

avvidclif1 wrote:
Notice most of the Pro TT are using a TT. That's fine but what are they doing in a 5th wheel group??? Defending their choice???

I will never own another TT after going to a 5th wheel.

I'm here because I moderate this forum. :B
Barney

Notice most of the Pro TT are using a TT. That's fine but what are they doing in a 5th wheel group??? Defending their choice???

I will never own another TT after going to a 5th wheel.

N-Trouble wrote:

IdaD wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Even at 30' to 33' a 5er is a big advantage, FAR more stable, inherently more stable!! With a TT even with a Hensley when the deification hits the rotary oscillator, the true pivot point is still 3' to 4' behind the rear axle! That will push the back one way and force the front the other way. I took too many engineering classes in school.

The step issue, I partly solved our issues by adding steps! Made each step smaller. added a step into the bedroom level and replace the three step entrance with a four step that all the risers are the same height.

Some of the TT guys swear up and down that the Hensley type hitches make their travel trailers tow the same as fifth wheels and those statements have never made sense to me. I guess I've never tried to understand the physics of it, but at the end of the day it seems to me that your physical attachment point is still 4' behind the rear axle and your travel trailer is still lighter on the tongue than a fifth wheel is on the pin. But I admit I've never used that kind of a hitch.

Those are TT guys that have never towed a 5er.

Not true! I have done both and the TT with the Hensley tows every bit as well as the 5er ever did.

Those that do not understand how this is possible might want to take a long look at, and study this thread. :)
Engineering classes notwithstanding, the true pivot point is never 3' to 4' behind the rear axle.
Barney

N-trouble, simply not correct a lot of people have owned both.

N-Trouble wrote:

IdaD wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Even at 30' to 33' a 5er is a big advantage, FAR more stable, inherently more stable!! With a TT even with a Hensley when the deification hits the rotary oscillator, the true pivot point is still 3' to 4' behind the rear axle! That will push the back one way and force the front the other way. I took too many engineering classes in school.

The step issue, I partly solved our issues by adding steps! Made each step smaller. added a step into the bedroom level and replace the three step entrance with a four step that all the risers are the same height.

Some of the TT guys swear up and down that the Hensley type hitches make their travel trailers tow the same as fifth wheels and those statements have never made sense to me. I guess I've never tried to understand the physics of it, but at the end of the day it seems to me that your physical attachment point is still 4' behind the rear axle and your travel trailer is still lighter on the tongue than a fifth wheel is on the pin. But I admit I've never used that kind of a hitch.

Those are TT guys that have never towed a 5er.

I'm a guy that's done both. I have to agree that the Hensley I used to tow a 31' TT with an F150 gave just as stable tow as our current 5er and 2500 does. Zero push pull while overtaking a semi using the Hensley. Same as my 2500 and 5er. If I ever go back to a TT and it's a fairly large one I'll definitely use a Hensley.

IdaD wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Even at 30' to 33' a 5er is a big advantage, FAR more stable, inherently more stable!! With a TT even with a Hensley when the deification hits the rotary oscillator, the true pivot point is still 3' to 4' behind the rear axle! That will push the back one way and force the front the other way. I took too many engineering classes in school.

The step issue, I partly solved our issues by adding steps! Made each step smaller. added a step into the bedroom level and replace the three step entrance with a four step that all the risers are the same height.

Some of the TT guys swear up and down that the Hensley type hitches make their travel trailers tow the same as fifth wheels and those statements have never made sense to me. I guess I've never tried to understand the physics of it, but at the end of the day it seems to me that your physical attachment point is still 4' behind the rear axle and your travel trailer is still lighter on the tongue than a fifth wheel is on the pin. But I admit I've never used that kind of a hitch.

Those are TT guys that have never towed a 5er.

colliehauler wrote:
What sells the most TT or 5th wheel RV's?

I have to ASSUME tt are more sold as there are more varieties and sizes, which allow a bigger range of vehicle sizes to tow them.