Unhook to level

Steve76eb wrote:

M-1028 wrote:

Macman83 wrote:
I would be hesitant to do this. I have had the trailer raise the pin several inches above the hitch after I have disconnected it at a site that looked level. I would even venture to say that if I had left the truck hooked up, that it would have almost lifted it off the ground. That would be several thousand pounds of weight hanging on my air pin, and I would be afraid that there would be damage either to the pin, the hitch, or it would overload the front jacks. I have a Voltage 3905 with the electric jacks, and when it auto levels, it can raise the trailer quite a ways.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Like I mentioned, I never unhooked my previous toy hauler and never had a problem, but it was electric front jacks and the rest where manual. I would never put the trailer into a position to where it would have to pick up the hitch that high to level.

The auto level is different that the old style electric front/manual rear jacks. You have control with that layout. When you hit the auto level button it does what it thinks it needs to and you stand back and watch. When I hit the auto level button the nose either takes off for the ground or the sky, depending on if I am parked in front or on the side of my house. If parked on the side of my house I have to use blocks with the front landing gear or I run out of stroke. No way the trailer would get up that high to be level if still attached to the hitch. If I park in front of my house the trailer has to have the nose lower the the hitch of my truck would allow it to go. Therefore the truck is in the way and needs to be moved clear in order to obtain a level position, The instructions even say to disconnect and pull away.

You can use the manual mode in the auto level set up and that way you can tell the front and rear jacks what to do. Probably the best way to use it if you do not plan to disconnect.

I understand, I'm guessing some systems are different from others because some say it's not a problem. Manual mode may be the route I take if it won't level with the truck hooked up.
Thanks

M-1028 wrote:

d-mac1 wrote:
You must not boondock. I don't have autolevel but on my last trip I had to have the nose way low to get level. No way a trailer could do that hooked to truck. And if it did your ramp would be super steep. Mine was steep enough as it was.

How does the ramp get less steep with the nose down? Should make it steeper.

What I meant was, with my nose low the ramp was steep and it would have been waay steeper if it couldn't lower the nose and could only raise the rear. I would have been insanely high at my last camp spot...no way the rear leveling jacks would have been long enough...and the ramp would have been super steep.

Glad you're able to find flat spots.

M-1028 wrote:

Macman83 wrote:
I would be hesitant to do this. I have had the trailer raise the pin several inches above the hitch after I have disconnected it at a site that looked level. I would even venture to say that if I had left the truck hooked up, that it would have almost lifted it off the ground. That would be several thousand pounds of weight hanging on my air pin, and I would be afraid that there would be damage either to the pin, the hitch, or it would overload the front jacks. I have a Voltage 3905 with the electric jacks, and when it auto levels, it can raise the trailer quite a ways.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Like I mentioned, I never unhooked my previous toy hauler and never had a problem, but it was electric front jacks and the rest where manual. I would never put the trailer into a position to where it would have to pick up the hitch that high to level.

The auto level is different that the old style electric front/manual rear jacks. You have control with that layout. When you hit the auto level button it does what it thinks it needs to and you stand back and watch. When I hit the auto level button the nose either takes off for the ground or the sky, depending on if I am parked in front or on the side of my house. If parked on the side of my house I have to use blocks with the front landing gear or I run out of stroke. No way the trailer would get up that high to be level if still attached to the hitch. If I park in front of my house the trailer has to have the nose lower the the hitch of my truck would allow it to go. Therefore the truck is in the way and needs to be moved clear in order to obtain a level position, The instructions even say to disconnect and pull away.

You can use the manual mode in the auto level set up and that way you can tell the front and rear jacks what to do. Probably the best way to use it if you do not plan to disconnect.

d-mac1 wrote:
You must not boondock. I don't have autolevel but on my last trip I had to have the nose way low to get level. No way a trailer could do that hooked to truck. And if it did your ramp would be super steep. Mine was steep enough as it was.

How does the ramp get less steep with the nose down? Should make it steeper.

d-mac1 wrote:
You must not boondock. I don't have autolevel but on my last trip I had to have the nose way low to get level. No way a trailer could do that hooked to truck. And if it did your ramp would be super steep. Mine was steep enough as it was.

Actually all the time, been to KOH twice. Plus all of the races this year where no hook ups in rough terrain. I guess I'm lucky at finding places that are mostly level.

You must not boondock. I don't have autolevel but on my last trip I had to have the nose way low to get level. No way a trailer could do that hooked to truck. And if it did your ramp would be super steep. Mine was steep enough as it was.

Macman83 wrote:
I would be hesitant to do this. I have had the trailer raise the pin several inches above the hitch after I have disconnected it at a site that looked level. I would even venture to say that if I had left the truck hooked up, that it would have almost lifted it off the ground. That would be several thousand pounds of weight hanging on my air pin, and I would be afraid that there would be damage either to the pin, the hitch, or it would overload the front jacks. I have a Voltage 3905 with the electric jacks, and when it auto levels, it can raise the trailer quite a ways.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Like I mentioned, I never unhooked my previous toy hauler and never had a problem, but it was electric front jacks and the rest where manual. I would never put the trailer into a position to where it would have to pick up the hitch that high to level.

I would be hesitant to do this. I have had the trailer raise the pin several inches above the hitch after I have disconnected it at a site that looked level. I would even venture to say that if I had left the truck hooked up, that it would have almost lifted it off the ground. That would be several thousand pounds of weight hanging on my air pin, and I would be afraid that there would be damage either to the pin, the hitch, or it would overload the front jacks. I have a Voltage 3905 with the electric jacks, and when it auto levels, it can raise the trailer quite a ways.

Just my 2 cents worth.

On my Fuzion the leveling system has to do kind of a radical nose low position to start the auto level. I just do a manual level and works fine.

bakedalaskan1 wrote:
You can autolevel connected to the truck. I have a 3950 and do it every day while traveling. The only time I disconnect is if the spot is not big enough for the whole rig or I need to go somewhere after I am parked.
There is a learning curve with the system and you will learn with each setup. On occasion I have had to use manual mode, but I have not figured out how to get the center jacks down in this mode.
My last trip was three weeks long and I moved every day except 2 and those 2 stops are the only time I disconnected from the truck.

Thanks!! I'll give it a shot. Didn't really think it would hurt anything.