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tpwelker
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Aug 17, 2014

2000 Monaco Diplomat

I have come across a 2000 Monaco Diplomat 38A pushed by a 315hp cummings turbo. I was really excited about possibly purchasing this rig until I talked to a gentleman today at an RV dealership. I asked if they had any Monaco rigs and he said that they were out of business and he wouldn't even take in any used units. The following is the list of cons that he gave me and took all the wind out of my sail. But good to know if it is all true. Any help and thoughts from the net would be greatly appreciated.

1) Monaco is out of business and you can't get parts.
2) There are possibly thousands of dollars of recalls on the rig that you can't get parts for.
3) The diesel engine is really a 300 small block chipped up to be a 315 which lacks the torque needed to pull mountains and such.
4) Claimed the Ford v10 is the way to go.
5) Too expensive to maintain, an oil change is $500, oil filter alone cost $300.

Thanks,
Todd
  • The salesman was full of it - just look at his price for the oil change. I haven't owned that engine, but at the most it takes 20 qts of oil. At $7 a quart, that's only $140. After you throw in the filter, labor and maybe an oil disposal fee, it doesn't come close to $500.

    Bill
  • Basically, everything the salesman said was nonsense. Run, not walk, away from that guy. I do not have a Monoco but I have looked at a lot of them.
  • Horsepuky

    I have a 98 Dip...its made out of the same parts as many other manufacturers...no problem...and Monaco is IN business, and have customer service over the phone.

    The 5.9 L (small block) is a fine engine, I have it and does great

    Sure I would rather have the 8.3 L for torque, but it gets good mileage.

    The oil change is more like $200 including filter, it is a common one.

    Look at some posts on the class A forum for Diesel vs Gas info.

    If a salesmans mouth is moving.....

    Bill
  • You know it never stops amazing how many back ends of the bull there are....

    Let me answer your questions with bona fine facts 1 at a time..

    1) Monaco is out of business and you can't get parts.
    2) There are possibly thousands of dollars of recalls on the rig that you can't get parts for.
    3) The diesel engine is really a 300 small block chipped up to be a 315 which lacks the torque needed to pull mountains and such.
    4) Claimed the Ford v10 is the way to go.
    5) Too expensive to maintain, an oil change is $500, oil filter alone cost $300.

    1. Monaco is in business and is owned now by Allied Recreational Group...which owns American Coach and Fleetwood..support is available as well as any part you want. 877 466 6226 and with your coach # they can get you anything.

    2. There is a recall on the RR4R chassis that the old Monaco escaped, BUT widely available good parts (Source Engineering) for that..which does NOT apply to this coach anyway.

    3. My friend has the exact same coach...no engine issues...no, it won't fly but once you get up to speed it's a great cruiser.. He has put many thousands of miles on his only buying tires/and an AC thermostat for the house went when it was 95 outside..bypassed it, until he got a replacement on ebay.

    4. Ford V10 is a good motor, but drive both..front gas, rear diesel...you have to decide that for yourself.

    5. Speedco does oil changes for the diesels and fuel filters for about 300 total...The diesel shop 2minutes from my home wanted 400 and because he answers my phone calls with all my cars, etc. not to mention convenience,fuel etc..I Went locally...he also lets me use his pit at anytime...which was convenient when I changed gen oil.