I know Tom. When you get into opinion things it can be rough. I am not sure why because when it is technical I get so much great stuff. I suspect there is so much anger when a new coach has problems it is reflected in the post in various ways. I have traded way to much to be sensible and can say that quality control is not what it should be. My experience is Winnebago. I love the coaches and overall they are good and well built. My last two had the hot and cold on washing machine reversed. Not a big deal but so easy to avoid and reflects bigger issues of speed in construction. Many of my issues have come from secondary products like a leveler or radio or satellite dish. Seems to be the case with many things that aren't motor home was well.