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x0054
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May 13, 2014

21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist?

Hi all,

We currently have a Class C, 21 foot, gas RV based on a Ford platform. A 1994 Shasta. But my wife and I like a lot the "bus" look of the Class A RVs. We don't need more than 21 feet, as it's just the 2 of us. We also like the flexibility of a 21 foot RV, being able to park it on the street and such.

So, we are looking to maybe upgrade one day. But after some research it looks like what we want just might be a unicorn! :) We wold love to find a 21 foot Class A with a turbo diesel engine. We want the turbo diesel because of gas milage you can get on those. Oh, and if it could have a stick-shift, that would be just amazing!

We found one, a Vixen 21. (http://www.vixenrv.com/) But they are incredibly rare, and not tall enough for our needs. I am 6'2" and would like to be able to stand in my RV. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

- Bogdan
  • I wonder if there are any German-built Hymers for sale over here....the one at this link is diesel, just about twenty-two feet long, and the steering wheel's even on the right side for North America!

    But Germany seems like a long way to go to buy one...;)
  • Not quite sure if your intent is to stick with something older, but you might take a look at the Tiffin Allegro Breeze. It's not 21', but it's only 28' Long and is a Class A Diesel Pusher..

    Tiffin ALLEGRO BREEZE
  • Not to get off your point, but if you like the 21 foot size, why would you want to change to a class A? If that was the size I wanted, I can think of many reasons to stay with the Class C over the A. The first reason is I love that front overhang covering the windshield during the summer. Yeah, it may restrict the view a little, but it keeps the windshield in the shade almost all the time and keeps the sun out of your eyes. I'd also love to be able to step in and out of a drivers door. For what you're talking about the only advantage I see to a Class A for you is you sit up higher so the view of the road is a little nicer (but I don't know if a 21' A would be that high). And even though the sun can be a pain, you do get to see a lot of the Country out of that big front window. I doubt too many of the Small Class A's come with diesel engines and most will also have the engine in the front too.
  • Francesca Knowles wrote:
    Be aware that since you lose the cabover area, a 21 foot A will have less "usable" interior space than does a C of the same nominal length.


    That's why I really like the Safari Trek! Thanks for the recommendation guys. The shortest I have found so far is the 24 foot model they made in 1994. The "magic" bed really works nice, from what I have seen on youtube. Practically speaking a 24 footer is probably just as easy and nice to drive as a 21 footer, but legally, it's just a lot easier to deal with a 21 footer. I really like that flexibility of being able to park on the street and get into every national park and road I want to.

    We may have to settle for a Class C for now :( Nothing wrong with Class C, we just like the looks of an A. But finding a 21 foot class C with a diesel is very hard as well.
  • Be aware that since you lose the cabover area, a 21 foot A will have less "usable" interior space than does a C of the same nominal length.
  • Daveinet wrote:
    About the shortest full size class A diesel will be an older Safari Trek. Next size up from that, you can look at Newmar New Aire, but those are more rare than a Vixen.


    That Newaire is an interesting beast. Tag axle? I don't think even those came as short as 21' did they?
  • Yeah, pretty much a unicorn. Might have to compromise on size or fuel type.
  • About the shortest full size class A diesel will be an older Safari Trek. Next size up from that, you can look at Newmar New Aire, but those are more rare than a Vixen.
  • Effy's avatar
    Effy
    Explorer II
    Axis/Vegas? It's not diesel but the MPG might be close if not better. Anything else and you are looking at a Sprinter chassis or something like that.