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4x4van
Nov 28, 2017Explorer III
Some interesting theories, on both sides of the aisle. I particularly like rgatijnet1's idea of pouring an additional quart (or 2) through a drained engine and letting that drain also, before replacing the plug. Might actually "collect" some additional crud on the way through and expel it from the engine, at a minimum of cost.
Personally, I drain when cold, or occasionally warm, but never hot. There is nothing enjoyable about hot oil, drain pugs, or filters, nor trying to manipulate them around hot engine parts. In fact, the older I get, I refuse to work on a hot engine, unless it is absolutely necessary from a troubleshooting standpoint. And the ONLY times I've ever had problems removing a filter, hot or cold, is when some other idiot installed it too tightly in the first place. Tightening 3/4 turn after contact (which is what every filter out there says right on it) it perfectly doable by hand; no tools needed. Step away from the filter wrench!
My current class A has plenty of room to get to the filter, but the first oil change, just after purchase, convinced me that some people should never go near mechanical things, ever! It was so tight that several styles of filter wrenches failed, and even a large screwdriver through the side did not work; it just ripped the filter in half! Luckily, there was just enough room to get a chain wrench wrapped around the half that was left, and even then it took a full 1 1/2 turns using an 18" breaker bar before it finally loosened enough to spin off!
Personally, I drain when cold, or occasionally warm, but never hot. There is nothing enjoyable about hot oil, drain pugs, or filters, nor trying to manipulate them around hot engine parts. In fact, the older I get, I refuse to work on a hot engine, unless it is absolutely necessary from a troubleshooting standpoint. And the ONLY times I've ever had problems removing a filter, hot or cold, is when some other idiot installed it too tightly in the first place. Tightening 3/4 turn after contact (which is what every filter out there says right on it) it perfectly doable by hand; no tools needed. Step away from the filter wrench!
My current class A has plenty of room to get to the filter, but the first oil change, just after purchase, convinced me that some people should never go near mechanical things, ever! It was so tight that several styles of filter wrenches failed, and even a large screwdriver through the side did not work; it just ripped the filter in half! Luckily, there was just enough room to get a chain wrench wrapped around the half that was left, and even then it took a full 1 1/2 turns using an 18" breaker bar before it finally loosened enough to spin off!
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