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Sep 29, 2013

Advice regarding my air tool/compressor needs

I’m so impressed with the job that the 3/4" drive air impact wrench did for me on my shock absorber replacement that I’m rethinking my rigs air compressor “needs” (my needs really). For the last 28 years I’ve been spoiled with a 20 gallon 7.6CFM @ 100psi air compressor I purchased new in 1985. Unfortunately, it doesn’t fit in any of my storage bays, even with modifications. I’m thinking of purchasing a smaller 10 gallon 4.6CFM @ 90psi air compressor that does fit. The smaller compressor tops out at 120psi. Now here’s where my question comes in. The 3/4" drive air impact wrench I rented was rated at a max torque of 1,100 ft/lb and was designed to run on 6.6CFM and it did run very well powered by my 20 gallon air compressor. Would the same tool work at full torque for a short time, possibly 15-30 seconds on the 10 gallon air compressor at 120psi? I’m not really searching for speculation, but for input from people who’ve used these tools much more than I have. I realize that I can purchase a heavy duty electric impact wrenches, but the air compressor has some many other uses I’d prefer to go that route if possible. Also, I’ve noticed in my internet search that some of the better 1/2" drive air impact wrenches seem to develop adequate torque to meet my future needs. Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for any help y’all can give me sorting this matter out.

Steve
  • Jagtech wrote:
    Off-roaders often just carry a tank of CO2 fitted with a regulator to power their air tools. More compact than a compressor, and requires no electricity, so operates anywhere. Various sized tanks are available, both new and used. Depending on the size, they will last quite a while, and certainly have enough volume to power that 3/4" gun, or air up some tires. They can be refilled at any welding shop, or many soda pop bottling facilities. A regulator is necessary as the CO2 tank pressure is around 1000 psi.


    Well Sir,
    I'll beg to differ with you on this. We Jeeped for over 25 years with (7) different Jeep Wranglers. We owned (1)CJ-5, (2)CJ-7s, (2)YJs, and (2)TJs, the last one being an '04 Rubicon. All seven Jeeps were setup with an on board, engine driven air compressor. Every one of those air compressors lived an earlier life as an air conditioner pump. Some of our Jeeps had disguised air tanks. Things like bumpers, nerf bars etc. were actually air tanks. But, air tanks are more of novelty than a necessity in the off road world. It all depends on your priorities on what you want to carry in those small storage vehicles. Jeeps like that are small in terms of storage so, all 20 of us ran those same exact pumps as compressors and none had refillable air tanks.

    Yes, some folks carry a tank but, not all that many. That's not to say they don't work, they will but, the on board compressor was and still is superior to an air tank.

    Geocritter,
    Now, this is another idea for you to take a look at. I've built several home air compressors out of automobile air conditioning pumps. I used the York and Tecumseh models for quite a few of them and, even a rotary "Sanden" one too. Those A/C pumps are capable of some seriously high pressure, (as demonstrated by their ability to handle pressures like 300 in A/C operations).

    But, all that's needed is a good working York style with a "still working magnetic clutch", a 1HP electric motor, a small pulley, a pressure switch (Square D makes most of them) and some sort of tank.

    The motor and pump can be mounted on a flat platform and then mounted anywhere that will accommodate it. Then, just plumb in the pressure switch and, you can get an air tank from any truck wrecking yard and mount it along the frame some place, out of the way and sight. Then, setup a remote gauge for you pressure readings and, an outlet or two for your convenience. We did it on the Jeeps all the time. One outlet on either each side of the Jeep or, one at the back and one in the front.

    Depending on your pulley size, that pump will be very close to a 2.5-3HP Sears home air compressor in SCFM. Those pumps carry their own supply of oil. The oiling system is very similar to the oiling system in the old Briggs and Stratton small vertical engines, a splash type system.

    Yes, you can buy a compressor but, this method will give you versatility in mounting different components in various places so as to not take up a ton of room in one spot and, still get a seriously nice performing Air compressor. Just a thought here.
    Scott
  • Scott,
    I believe you solved my problem, by Jove! I'll just remove the 2-hp electric motor and compressor from the top of my air tank and mount it on an adjacent platform with a flex line connecting it to the tank. With the height gone it'll easily fit in my bay. I already have about 30 ft of air hose so access to my tires or nearly anything else on my rig isn't a problem no matter where I put it.

    BTW, you talk about off-roading, in the mid-70's I lived in Menlo Park and had a neighbor who was heavily into off-roading. He used to talk about doing emergency welding by connecting the groups car batteries together with jumper cables to make an emergency DC welder. In southern Illinois we used to build winches using the gear box from a residential furnace coal stoker and a car starting motor, necessity truly is the mother of invention. You off-roaders are my kind of people! Makes me want to own a 4WD again.

    Steve
  • Geocritter wrote:
    Scott,
    I believe you solved my problem, by Jove! I'll just remove the 2-hp electric motor and compressor from the top of my air tank and mount it on an adjacent platform with a flex line connecting it to the tank. With the height gone it'll easily fit in my bay. I already have about 30 ft of air hose so access to my tires or nearly anything else on my rig isn't a problem no matter where I put it.

    BTW, you talk about off-roading, in the mid-70's I lived in Menlo Park and had a neighbor who was heavily into off-roading. He used to talk about doing emergency welding by connecting the groups car batteries together with jumper cables to make an emergency DC welder. In southern Illinois we used to build winches using the gear box from a residential furnace coal stoker and a car starting motor, necessity truly is the mother of invention. You off-roaders are my kind of people! Makes me want to own a 4WD again.

    Steve


    Steve,
    Glad I could be of some assistance in your venture in the "air powered world". Yep, we've been on many outings when at least two batteries were grouped together for an emergency weld. The problem as you would know is, there's absolutely "0" control over the amperage. So, you better have some welding experience so you don't "fry" whatever you're trying to repair.

    I don't if you're aware or not but, there's been some pretty keen improvements in the "Off road repair" in last part of the century. One is called the "Mobi-weld". It's a simple, trigger controlled, wire feed welder, in a small case, about the size of 3/8" drill case and, uses auto batteries for power. Pretty nifty for those "outback" repairs. There are others out there to that utilize your alternator and a control box. They're move complicated but, more controllable too.

    Anyway, if and when you set this "mobile air supply" up, take care as to the precautions that air, when compressed, get's HOT, so, the line(s) from the compressor to the tank, must be able to tolerate heat. Other than that, have fun setting it up. Take pics. Let us know how it comes out.
    Scott
  • just find you a Snap-On Tool dealer and buy a 1/2 inch impact that delivers over 800 ft # of torque.