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- midasmanExplorerI doubt the manufacturer would even touch that "hot potato". To test for dragging, make 2 or 3 hard brake pedal pushes either at low speed or even stopped. If on level ground, and in gear the coach should start rolling a little when the pedal is released. If it doesn't, the caliper is probably sticking.
- Deano56Explorerwhat does the manual say the brake temperature ought to be ??
- TinstarExplorerOP here. I drove for 35 miles with 30 traffic lights between Denton and McKinney, TX. (I didn't have to stop at every one but maybe 15 or so of them). I checked the temp of the brakes when I stopped. The front measured almost 160 degrees but the back were 280 degrees. The rear has new calipers and pads on the disk. I thought the temperature was little high on the rear.
A friend of mine who has his own diesel repair shop recommended changing all of the brake lines from the master cylinder when I replaced the calipers. He said the lines can get corroded up inside and pressure will push the fluid to the caliper BUT when releasing the pedal, the fluid, being restricted, can not free flow from the caliper piston back out through the lines which can cause them to drag.
Due to time restrictions I did not change the lines when I replaced the calipers. Has anyone ever done it and did it fix any dragging problem? What do y'all think about the temperature I had on the rear?
OH, BTW, the brakes held fine so no problems there. - midasmanExplorerThe first and only time my brakes were HOT was I-70, west of Denver and I have been doing mountains for many years. The exhaust brake was working (some hissing when applied), and I had the transmission in 2nd. The brakes STUNK! First of all, they are DRUM brakes on my '06 Holiday Ambassador, so not the GOOD kind...Temp was around 500 degrees front and rear. Brief but firm pedal was necessary to control my speed to prevent an automatic shift to 3rd due to overspeeding my engine. According to a truck blog, brake shoes are probably OK until they get over 900 degrees! If I had not been on an interstate, I either would have stopped half way down, or slowed enough to use 1st gear! My concern though is that the Allison 3000 does not lock the torque converter in first gear and might have overheated Mr. Allison...
- kalynzooExplorerMy tire monitor (Tire Protector USA...there are may companies)also monitors the temp. This summer when my aux brake got caught up I was warned when the temp was 180 and smoke was coming off the front brakes. No immediate damage, got to finish the vacation, but I needed a brake job on the Saturn when we got home. Going down the Grapevine (I-5 very long 6% grade) at the bottom you can smell everyones' brakes. I usually stop at the town at the bottom of the grade to let everything cool and take a little break myself, as it is about 1.5 hours from home. Just walking around the coach I can feel the heat. Not so much now with the engine brake, but for sure when I had the gas RV.
- gatorcqExplorerIt all depends on the Chassis.
On Freightliner there is no need to as quoted by the Camp Freightliner school.
Even going down a steep hill.
3 to 5 seconds = 5 mph slower
7 to 10 seconds = 10 mph slower
15 to 20 seconds = 20 mph slower.
The first real indication of getting warm to hot (not to worry) is your nose.
Hope this helps. If you have a Freightliner Chassis I suggest Camp Freightliner School in Gaffney in South Carolina. Another option is Freightliner access 24/7 hotline. First - 10forty2Explorer
kyle86 wrote:
I have a problems with my brakes sticking. I smelled burnt brakes one day so I started checking the temps with a laser thermometer. Normal use they see about 150 degrees. When they get stuck I see 300+ degrees. The front pair are the ones sticking which are brand new USA dexter hubs that the previous owner installed. I know they are stuck because when I'm on a downgrade hill and hit the brakes and then release, the truck stays still. If I reverse a couple feet then they unlock and roll foreward. Sorry to hijack the thread just posting in case someone may know what's going on.
Sounds like you need to get those calipers looked at. Most likely, the caliper slider pins need cleaning/lubing, but there could be other problems causing it as well. If allowed to constantly keep the brake pads engaged, they will, 1) wear out the pads faster, 2) Glaze them so they are not effective at stopping, 3) Wear out the rotors, and 4) Possibly heat up the wheel and maybe cause a tire failure as a result of being overheated....an/d or all of the above. - ncrowleyExplorer III slow down to a speed that the exhaust brake will hold. The transmission will shift down as I slow down So it is combination of the exhaust brake and gear that will keep me from speeding up. That way I am not always using the brakes to slow down. I may have to go pretty slow on a steep grade. I drive out west and I seem to be always going over some mountain pass. I am often going down about 40 - 45 mph.
When I was in Camp Freightliner, they said to go down the grade no faster than you went up the grade. - IvylogExplorer IIIX2 on what WyoTraveler said. Mel, did you ever do the test to see if your exhaust brake was engaging/working? Did the shift pad show 4 or 2 when you had it on and took your foot off the gas? Once you start smelling your brakes it's past time to find some other way of slowing down... hopefully not a runaway ramp with your 1994 Allegro Bus.
Yes I temp my front brake disks, but it's usually at a rest stop and 140 is the highest I can remember seeing after one stop from 25 MPH. I temp my tires/140 Max, wheel bearings/125 Max and brakes/140 Max to make sure something is not out of the norm. The 140 on the disk could be more from the tire temp than the actual braking as I use my Jake Brake to slow down all the time. - WyoTravelerExplorerIf your brakes are getting that hot you are over using them on down grades. You should be gearing down, going slower and letting your engine do the work on down grades. Every summer near the bottom of hwy 16 in Wyoming they have several RVs burn up due to over use of their brakes. Very dangerous to let your brakes get that hot.
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