banks conversion for Ford V10

The 2 valve V10 has very restrictive exhaust manifolds, and the rear header bolts fail after about 3-4 years. The 3 valve V10 has very good exhaust manifold design, and I would not replace them. Just quality exhaust headers for the 2 valve will make a big improvement in power. It is very hard to increase gas mileage in a rig the weights between 15,000 and 23,000 pounds, and is using a pickup truck engine for power. If you consider the frontal area and weight, and how we use them, it is a wonder they do as good as they do.

RLS7201 wrote:
Here is what Bank's dynmometer says about their Power Pack kit improvements for a 20 valve V10.
Click on "PROOF"

Here is what Bank's dynmometer says about their Power Pack kit improvements for a 30 valve V10.
Click on "PROOF"

Note that Banks has managed to improve the newer 362 HP engine on an equal basis with the older 275 & 315 HP engines, much to the dismay of some.

..The key words to the info you are linking to is, "what Bank's SAYS about their Power Pack kit".

As we all know, what a company SAYS their product does, and what it actually DOES for most people in reality, are frequently two very different things. Some of the experiences some have noted here with Banks kinda confirms that.

Its kind of like the old joke about how if the hype claimed about many fuel saving products were ALL true, and you installed ALL of them...Your vehicle would save sooooo much fuel, it'd be spitting fuel back out at you. :)

...As has been said, a Banks Power Pack kit will never, ever pay for itself in fuel mileage savings (if there is any). There's probably *some* power gained, and probably more so with the older V10s.

I personally think for the newer V10s, Ford has squeezed just about every ounce of horsepower that is realistically possible out of the V10. I wouldn't spend this $$ on one of the newer V10s, but might could be tempted to do so for an older one, or one of the older big blocks.

"You can buy a lot of gas for 5 grand...and the Banks "improves" milage by what 2-3 mpg"?

I wish - my mileage did not improve one tiny bit.

My non-technical brain is leery of dyno results versus real world driving applications.

I will say, that in SOME applications, I believe the Banks can make an improvement. However, there are also cheaper alternatives that may do just as much.

I don't think this application is anything near "cost-effective". 5 grand installed. You can buy a lot of gas for 5 grand...and the Banks "improves" milage by what:? 2-3 mpg? Most likely you've got to keep the RV to 20+ years to make it pay...and that is if you have the Banks installed before you take delivery!
My 2001 V-10 is non-banks...and yes, on some hills going West, it struggled...but the motorhome made it, pulling a 3400 pound "toad"...every mountain hill (pass)no harm done.
Just my opinions....FWIW.

I put full Banks including trans-command on my 2001 V-10, 305 HP, 14K lb rig. Cost just shy of 5K installed. Performance improvement - nearly none. My 06 362 HP V-10, 22K lb coach, performs as well or better than the post Banks, 01. I would not consider doing doing the Banks on this rig.

Here is what Bank's dynmometer says about their Power Pack kit improvements for a 20 valve V10.
Click on "PROOF"

Here is what Bank's dynmometer says about their Power Pack kit improvements for a 30 valve V10.
Click on "PROOF"

Note that Banks has managed to improve the newer 362 HP engine on an equal basis with the older 275 & 315 HP engines, much to the dismay of some.

You can purchase the Banks Power pack on Ebay for around $2,200.
Installation cost will vary depending on location and proficiency of installer.

I can not personally attest to the gains on the V10 engine, but on my Ford 460 V8, the HP & torque gains are every thing that Banks claims.
I didn't see any fuel mileage gains.

Richard

I read a review some years back in one of the "truck" publications (I forget which one). They looked at the Banks on the older 2-valve V10 and found it increased power by about 10 HP and did not appear to impact gas mileage.
The opinion of the author was that it was not a cost effective project.

it actually does well in the hills. I tow a 4 door Jeep. Headed west next year so the hills will be a little bigger then I experience here in NY. I also get 7MPG.

bass n bob wrote:
Sorry - didn't know the year would make a difference- it is a 2011 and 362 horses.

Is it struggling now in the hills, if so it might help, I tow a Jeep with mine and I can fly up the hills with ease, but still prefer 45mph to keep the rpm down, if your expecting better mpg no one has said it improved there, mine still gets horrible gas mileage in the 7mpg range.

Sorry - didn't know the year would make a difference- it is a 2011 and 362 horses.