building new campground

As a comparison, at least in terms of a stopover location, here's a campground that is about 5-6 miles off the interestate

http://www.benchmarkrv.net/index.html

I've stayed there once on my way to Texas, and plan on staying there again on my Christmas Texas trip.

It's $30 per night, but with Good Sams, I think it was $25 or $28

Concrete pads... all pull through's, Full Hook Up including cable and wifi.

Now, if you have a 50 amp rig, there is a slight up charge, EVEN if you say you will use the 30 amp plug. It was only a couple bucks, no big deal really.

It's a decent place to stop over night. Fairly close to the freeway. So, I would say comparable to what OP might be thinking. Just an example of what you might want to be prepared to offer/plan for. Didn't take up a lot of room. Two rows if I remember correctly.

Mike

One major item slightly touched on is whether the road is dirt or paved. Most rvers will not travel 8 miles of dirt road. It clogs our air filters, covers our tows in dust and gravel, and is just not desirable. This would be a deal breaker for many. If you proceed, one item I have found desirable, from owners and users point of view is unisex washrooms. Instead of having mens and womens, install x number of washrooms that is useable for either sex. This way the cleaners can close one at a time, and not disable the entire washroom. If you have tenters, and small campers, the washrooms become very important. We were at one campground this summer where they closed the shower house and bathrooms for a hour, at 8 in the morning for cleaning. What were they thinking. Many charge 50 cents or a dollar for a 10 minute shower. I will even use them on occasion. Its nice to just have a good, high pressure, hot shower once in a while that I dont feel like Im in a closet. Rv showers tend to be on the small side. Harvest Host could be a good angle, considering you have the brewery on site. Good luck.

William B wrote:

time2roll wrote:
For overnighters I would go with 30 amp electric only and a central hose bib. No shower house, no club house, no dump, no swimming pool. Just a place to get a quiet night of rest. Probably cut your price a bit and see where it goes. You can always add more amenities but once that money is spent and this thing never takes off it could just be a sink hole. If it does take off you can keep your overnight section and start building a full service section.

Well, I don't mind the 8 miles in the least, but this would keep me away.

OK so enjoy the free WM or truck stop near the interstate and run your generator all night. Or pay $50+ for full services that are probably not used for an overnight.

mike brez wrote:

T18skyguy wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:
When traveling and looking for an " over nighter" the FIRST thing I look for is distance from the highway.... We are NOT retired and are traveling to get to our destination for vacation... IF I were a full timer, that would give me a different outlook on that..

As far as tax's and regulations, I agree that as soon as that is no longer a WORKING FARM, you will lose that benefit, whatever it may be..

What it's called is farm deferral of taxes. Farmers get a big reduction of property taxes as long as they farm it. A problem arises when someone new buys the property, and decides not to farm it. When this happens, they have to pay all the back taxes to the beginning of farm deferral, no matter how far back it is. Nobody typically does this, but some buyers are unaware of the law when they buy, and the County hands them a really big bill. I'm in Oregon and we have that here.

If it is were I’m thinking it is they are farming some grain and hops for beer.
I’m sure that would keep that going along with some rv pads

People "fudging" on farm deferral is beginning to be a hot button issue out here. I just read a big article on about how some people are buying large tracks of pristine pieces of land and trying to claim farm deferral. It's starting to get press now, and when that happens they'll clamp down and end the party. I don't know about New York.

Bert Ackerman wrote:
You all can debate it until the cows come home...

Heh heh...dairy farm...cows come home...I see what you did there! Clever! :) LOL

~Rick

For an overnight stop at an RV park, I would avoid the 8 mile drive one way and I would avoid dirt roads. If the RV park was a special destination, then I would consider it.

You all can debate it until the cows come home. Its all academic. The OP needs to get an attorney well versed in real estate, preferably with an emphasis on commercial development, and from the local area. Until all the requirements are known from city,township,county,state,federal etc., and what has to be done is known to cross the T's and dot the I's locally, you may as well discuss ST tires or fridge leveling. It may be nothing more than the OP proceeding and keeping his mouth shut but I highly doubt that anywhere in NY. Then they'll have to appease the NIMBYs.

westernrvparkowner wrote:
While the whole scenario is fuzzy, in the original post they said they were going to get out of Dairy farming and move into the RV Park business. Government loves it's taxes. Don't believe they would allow an Agricultural exemption to remain on the entire property if the dairy farm went away, was replaced by an RV Park and all that remained was a few acres of grain and hops for a brewery. Kind of like I can't just plant a rooftop garden on my 100 million dollar Manhattan Penthouse that overlooks Central Park and claim an Agricultural use tax exemption because it is being used for crop production.

That might depend on your name and tax bracket.
One thing they do have in their favor is they are already used to 7 day a week job...

mike brez wrote:

T18skyguy wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:
When traveling and looking for an " over nighter" the FIRST thing I look for is distance from the highway.... We are NOT retired and are traveling to get to our destination for vacation... IF I were a full timer, that would give me a different outlook on that..

As far as tax's and regulations, I agree that as soon as that is no longer a WORKING FARM, you will lose that benefit, whatever it may be..

What it's called is farm deferral of taxes. Farmers get a big reduction of property taxes as long as they farm it. A problem arises when someone new buys the property, and decides not to farm it. When this happens, they have to pay all the back taxes to the beginning of farm deferral, no matter how far back it is. Nobody typically does this, but some buyers are unaware of the law when they buy, and the County hands them a really big bill. I'm in Oregon and we have that here.

If it is were I’m thinking it is they are farming some grain and hops for beer.
I’m sure that would keep that going along with some rv pads

While the whole scenario is fuzzy, in the original post they said they were going to get out of Dairy farming and move into the RV Park business. Government loves it's taxes. Don't believe they would allow an Agricultural exemption to remain on the entire property if the dairy farm went away, was replaced by an RV Park and all that remained was a few acres of grain and hops for a brewery. Kind of like I can't just plant a rooftop garden on my 100 million dollar Manhattan Penthouse that overlooks Central Park and claim an Agricultural use tax exemption because it is being used for crop production.

Offer free beer, then the distance becomes a non issue.