Diesel Fuel Additive During Winter Storage

wvabeer wrote:
I'll just hope for natural convection, I can't shake it as its on it's levers. I can't start it, the batteries are removed. I cannot think of a way to agitate it.

AND a note to those 'newbies' reading this post --- ASK BEFORE you put her in storage... :) ..Dennis

janstey58 wrote:
This is what I have ordered from O'Rielly and will be pouring into my full diesel tank today:

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/bio-kleen-diesel-fuel-biocide/

That is the stuff you need.

This is what I have ordered from O'Rielly and will be pouring into my full diesel tank today:

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/bio-kleen-diesel-fuel-biocide/

jplante4 wrote:

SidecarFlip wrote:

down home wrote:
I use the CAT brand biocide additive when I can get it.
I use another brand, that I don't remember the name of from a local diesel shop.
They are both about 32-39.00 bottle of 32 oz. One oz per ten gallons, I think but don't quote me.
It is a terrific idea, today, when there is no sulfur, to amount to anything in diesel. If you use BioDiesel it is absolutely a necessity. Basically cooking oil the microbes really like it with a bit of moisture or not.
Power Service etc I cannot see anything in the ingredients about any real biocide in it. I look anytime we stop for a bit for what they have on the shelves of Loves, or Fyin J etc. Nothing worth my money.
EPA doesn't want us using it.

Power Service diesel additive is a Cetane improver only. If it was a biocide or contained any chemical lethal to microbes in fuel, it would have to be labelled as such and it's not.

I have used the CAT biocide before but it's hard to get whereas the Power Kleen is readily available.

I also use the CAT fuel additive when I can find it. It's hard to find as well.

One look on the back label tells you right away if it is indeed a biocide. It will have all sorts of warnings about disposal of the empty container, inhalation hazards and all that stuff the government requires,,,

That link I provided shows 5 Power Service products, and a biocide is one of them.

I'll stop by NAPA and see what they have.

SidecarFlip wrote:

down home wrote:
I use the CAT brand biocide additive when I can get it.
I use another brand, that I don't remember the name of from a local diesel shop.
They are both about 32-39.00 bottle of 32 oz. One oz per ten gallons, I think but don't quote me.
It is a terrific idea, today, when there is no sulfur, to amount to anything in diesel. If you use BioDiesel it is absolutely a necessity. Basically cooking oil the microbes really like it with a bit of moisture or not.
Power Service etc I cannot see anything in the ingredients about any real biocide in it. I look anytime we stop for a bit for what they have on the shelves of Loves, or Fyin J etc. Nothing worth my money.
EPA doesn't want us using it.

Power Service diesel additive is a Cetane improver only. If it was a biocide or contained any chemical lethal to microbes in fuel, it would have to be labelled as such and it's not.

I have used the CAT biocide before but it's hard to get whereas the Power Kleen is readily available.

I also use the CAT fuel additive when I can find it. It's hard to find as well.

One look on the back label tells you right away if it is indeed a biocide. It will have all sorts of warnings about disposal of the empty container, inhalation hazards and all that stuff the government requires,,,

That link I provided shows 5 Power Service products, and a biocide is one of them.

I'll just hope for natural convection, I can't shake it as its on it's levers. I can't start it, the batteries are removed. I cannot think of a way to agitate it.

down home wrote:
I use the CAT brand biocide additive when I can get it.
I use another brand, that I don't remember the name of from a local diesel shop.
They are both about 32-39.00 bottle of 32 oz. One oz per ten gallons, I think but don't quote me.
It is a terrific idea, today, when there is no sulfur, to amount to anything in diesel. If you use BioDiesel it is absolutely a necessity. Basically cooking oil the microbes really like it with a bit of moisture or not.
Power Service etc I cannot see anything in the ingredients about any real biocide in it. I look anytime we stop for a bit for what they have on the shelves of Loves, or Fyin J etc. Nothing worth my money.
EPA doesn't want us using it.

Power Service diesel additive is a Cetane improver only. If it was a biocide or contained any chemical lethal to microbes in fuel, it would have to be labelled as such and it's not.

I have used the CAT biocide before but it's hard to get whereas the Power Kleen is readily available.

I also use the CAT fuel additive when I can find it. It's hard to find as well.

One look on the back label tells you right away if it is indeed a biocide. It will have all sorts of warnings about disposal of the empty container, inhalation hazards and all that stuff the government requires,,,

I use the CAT brand biocide additive when I can get it.
I use another brand, that I don't remember the name of from a local diesel shop.
They are both about 32-39.00 bottle of 32 oz. One oz per ten gallons, I think but don't quote me.
It is a terrific idea, today, when there is no sulfur, to amount to anything in diesel. If you use BioDiesel it is absolutely a necessity. Basically cooking oil the microbes really like it with a bit of moisture or not.
Power Service etc I cannot see anything in the ingredients about any real biocide in it. I look anytime we stop for a bit for what they have on the shelves of Loves, or Fyin J etc. Nothing worth my money.
EPA doesn't want us using it.

jplante4 wrote:

wvabeer wrote:
You have me talked into it. Mine was filled up at the end of October, batteries removed and covered. I'll add some biocide tomorrow.

You'll need to figure out a way to agitate it. I add my winter products at the last fillup and it's a 6 mile drive to storage.

I do like you Mr. Plante, I add prior to topping off the tanks but in theory, because all diesel engines return fuel from the injection system to the fuel tanks when running, you could add the biocide and idle the engine for say an hour or so and that would mix it in the fuel tanks and system.

It's always important to make sure your fuel tanks are as full as you can get them as well. That dead air space on the top of the tank inside can sweat and make moisture.

With the Power Kleen, there are two recommended dosages. There is the maintenance dose and the initial dose. I use the heavier of the 2 in the winter. Stuff stinks but I have had no issues since using it.

I see that Stabil is also offering a biocide now. (saw it at Tractor Supply). It's the same color as the Power Kleen and a bit cheaper (Power Kleen is about 30 bucks a pint over the counter, but I'll stick with the power Kleen because I know it works.

The problem with diesel is, if you buy it from say a local station, you have no idea how long it's been tanked there and the older it is, the more chance you have of growing algae. I try to buy my fuel at volume stations (like truck stops or the local elevator) where I know there is a big turnover.

....and stay away from B20 at all costs for an over winter in storage fuel. B20 is notorious for growing algae, even more so than regular ULSD.

I used to run B20 exclusively in my farm tractors, don't even do that anymore. It's more expensive and I can do without the 'french fry' smell.

Back in the old days before the government got into diesel fuel, there was never an algae issue. Not so today.

My words of wisdom and experience for today....:B

wvabeer wrote:
You have me talked into it. Mine was filled up at the end of October, batteries removed and covered. I'll add some biocide tomorrow.

You'll need to figure out a way to agitate it. I add my winter products at the last fillup and it's a 6 mile drive to storage.