Distinction Between C+ & Super C!

In my opinion, both C+ and Super-C are nothing more than marketing speak distinctions. All are class C motorhomes, in that all are built on a chassis cab/cutaway chassis. The fact that different cutaway chassis (with different capabilities) are used does not affect the class any.

Realistically, there are enough different chassis that are or have been used that it's hard to come up with terms or sub-classes to describe them properly, much less convince manufacturers and others to use them. There's at least as much difference in capability (relatively speaking) between an old Toyota or a new ProMaster-based RV and an E-450 based RV, for example, as there is between the C+ and super-C as you describe them. To me, it's more sensible just to say it's a class C built on a ____ chassis and leave it at that.

Drew, you make a very valid point! Like you mentioned, regardless what chassis it is built on, it is still a C! Bags.

x2. A C is a C. My little 20 foot C parks next to one of those super monsters in the storage area. The super thing makes nice shade for my rig. :-)

the various ways people use motorhomes for recreation are held in common by all motorhome owners regardless of the type of rig they prefes.

so the separation of motorized Recreational Vehicles would appear to be for facilitating discussions of the vehicle hardware that is unique to a given class/type.

so many arguments - both friendly and otherwise - occur on rv.net about motorhome classification (and even sub-classifications) among and within each of the three class groups.

too bad the breakdown into MH types couldn't simply be RVs w/ coach built inside a van, on a truck, and on a bare chassis.

I don't think we really need to create two more type's of C motorhomes.

Super C is a copywrited name owned by Jayco.

This is to describe their class C built on the GMC 5500 series truck platform with a front engine, and the cab has doors the size of a GMC van of that model year. So it was much taller than a van or truck based chassis. It works great in motorhome service. But GMC gave up production of the 8.1L and GM 4500 / 5500 series truck chassis in 2007.

Now Dodge is selling a 5500 series pickup cab and chassis. Ford has been selling the 'Super Duty' 16,000 pound cab and chassis since the mid - 90's. Later rebadged as F-450, and the F-550 came out in 1999 with 19.5" rims and up to 19,500 GVWR.

I have looked at a 35' class C based on a diesel F-550 chassis. Problem was it has a 18,000 pound curb weight, and would not work for my 'style' of camping, it barely has any cargo rating. I love my 100 gallon fresh water tank, and 2,734 pound cargo rating on my 1997 Ford based Bounder motorhome. I liked the 10,000 pound hitch on the back of the F-550. It would come in handy to tow a cargo trailer.

Personally I like calling all the larger GVWR truck mounts Super C, no matter how much the GVWR is. Problem is that Jayco (I think) owns the copywrite to that name.

I really liked the 'Scotty' brand class C based on the Dodge 3500 cab and chassis, normally with a diesel engine and many also included 4 wheel drive. They would get 16 MPG and go off road without danger of getting stuck until the roads got really bad.. .

To bad that Scotty went out of business years ago. .

Fred.

Bagman: No matter what name you use do yourself a favor and stay away rom any of the Maxforce engines ! Truckers hat them and with good reason!

Moisheh

Super-C was a term coined by the marketing department at Gulfstream for selling the Endura. Whether or not it is anybody's trademark (would not be a copyright), I don't know. It has been used arbitrarily here to refer to anything much bigger than the seven-ton C motorhome built on a van-cutaway chassis.

The "house" packages built on Class 6 and larger trucks have been around decades longer than Gulfstream or Jayco Super-C motorhomes, and traditional buyers did not consider them to be RVs at all, as most serve commercial purposes.

As others have said a "C" is a "C".......However, there is a difference between a class C motorhome and a Truck Conversion just as there is a difference in a Class A and a Bus Conversion (prevost, bluebird)

Here's one that will also make your head spin......a few years back, some Truck Conversion Manufacturers started putting "class A" on the title. My first Dynamax (Grand Sport 450 UL) had on the title under "type" class A. I read somewhere that Renegade began doing this also on the IKON.

I agree with JTHarley.

I don't care if mine is a C or a Super C or a C+, all that I really care about is that it's a diesel F550 and will tow the weight I need to tow. The gas E450 based C's won't do that.

Regarding trademark or copyright, Thor calls their F550 based rigs "Super C" on their website.