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tommy_salmon
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Aug 20, 2015

F53 Drivability

I know this has probably been covered ad nauseam in the past, but I can seem to find any info from the past posts. I have already done the budget stabilizer modification and it helps, but my handling on my 2013 Winnebago Vista is still like rowing a bathtub on the ocean. I am almost always towing a Jeep Wrangler while driving, but I have problems with or without towing. What suspension/steering mods have y'all done on the F53 chassis that helped most, and what did not work? Also, I drive in the mountains a lot, and the engine noise gets really annoying pretty quickly, and my wife and I can't even carry on a conversation. Any solutions for the noise? After 11,000 miles, I'm thinking I have to make a change to this rig, move up to a diesel pusher, or go back to a 5er! Thanks in advance for your reply!
  • safe T plus made a big difference. It makes the tires track straight. This fixes the steering issues. Think of it as fixing the Ford chassis and how it all works.

    The Tiger Trak stabilizes the box on top of the chassis and reduces the sway of the box particularly when big rigs are next to you.

    After that, you need to check your weight distribution of axles and toad weight. I would guess after all that, you should be in pretty good shape.

    Sad we have to spend all that to make them driveable but it sounds like a lot of expense to buy a pusher and then do this all over again.

    good luck.
  • You sound like another perfect candidate for a DP. Like others have said, engine out back, all the heat and noise is out back too.

    Air brakes, jake brake and air ride are awesome.

    Basement and pass through storage are huge compared to the gasser also. Remember, you have the transmission and driveshaft running the entire length of the coach. DP's don't have this problem, so you get a ton more storage.

    If you can afford it, go for it. You won't believe how quiet the ride is even under full throttle climbing hills.
  • The best steering improvement I made on my F53 was setting the toe-in on the strong side. 5/32 toe-in. Next best was a front track bar.
    Insulate the dog house and surrounding structure to reduce heat and noise.

    Richard
  • Here's a recent thread: http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/28521964/srt/pa/pging/1/page/1.cfm
    I assume your rig has a maximum tow rating of 5,000lbs. I know some jeep wranglers can be close to that. I'm wondering if your toad is causing any of the handling issues? My Monaco Monarch on the same chassis handles great, even on mountain roads.
  • 1) Get the coach weighed and look up the inflation charts for your tires and the weight carried by each axle.
    2) Get a four wheel alignment done by a very qualified shop.
    3) Add a rear stabilizer to your rig (Tiger Trak makes a good one)
    4) Install an airbag system if you don't like how the shocks affect the coach. (Kelderman is a good one)
    5) Some people have had good luck with steering stabilizers.

    As for noise, there are plenty of acoustical insulation products you can apply to the underside of your dog house and firewall that should make a noticeable difference.

    A diesel pusher is nice too if you'd like to upgrade.
  • We had the same problems with a class C version of your coach. After, helper springs, air bags, steering stabilizer, completely insulating the cab with hush mat and new carpet and pad and even aluminum rims it still was too noisy and handled poorly. We traded it for a DP. Air brakes, air ride, engine in the back makes all the difference. We had our DP in 50+ gusting winds pulling our boat, in the mountains and it was much more stable. That is before you factor in the vastly better fuel economy. The poor v10 got terrible fuel economy in mountainous terrain. When towing it was worse. DPs are not nirvana they float across the roadway so don't expect sports car handling.