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Jul 30, 2018

Ford F53 Ride Improvements

I am trying to understand the relationship between the springs, shocks, and air bags on my F53 chassis. We just returned from a 2300 mile 17 day outing, and at times the RV about beat us to death. Now I understand it will never ride like a DP or even my Yukon, but dang, did it get rough. Tire pressures are 80psi front, 85psi rear, 33 foot National RV SeaBreeze LX, 208 inch wheelbase. Shocks are Biltseins (new) OEM and Firestone air bags.

So I understand the leaf springs support the RV and move up and down to keep the chassis stable. The shocks dampen the up and down movement to "smooth" it out. Shocks have a compression and rebound, or return rating which dictates how much control they have. The air bags, while helping minimize body roll also can dampen the initial "bounce" of the springs. So at this point I'm at a loss on what to do to smooth out the ride some without spending mega dollars. Biltsein and Monroe have been zero help, as they just want to sell me an OEM shock and are not willing to discuss options.

As additional FYI, the RV has the factory front and rear anti-sway bars, a front aftermarket anti roll bar (going from the driver shock mount to the passenger frame to help control body roll) and I'm having a Hellwig rear anti-sway bar installed next week. CHF has been done. Handing is not an issue, just the ride. I do plan on having the frame/chassis shop look at the springs to confirm they are not "worn", but any initial information or thoughts before I take it there would be most helpful.

Al

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  • some people say that Munroe RV shocks give a smoother ride on F53's
  • I have weighed the RV and arrived at the inflation pressures by reviewing the inflation tables. The only handling issue is the slight push from Semi's, which is why the Hellwig is going to be installed next week. I could live with it as is, but would be nice to eliminate some of that pushing. I think your calling it a track bar is the same as me calling it an anti-sway bar (we use that term in racing)

    The previous owner installed the shocks, so I'm open to a new set.

    Al
  • I have a similar coach also with Firestone airbags, Koni shocks and CHF. Ride performance isn't limo smooth but doing multiple 500 mile days isn't a problem. The front aftermarket bar described is actually a Ford installed front track bar.

    The after market air bag's primary purpose is to regain ride height after loading not sway control, suspension damping or increase chassis load capacity. Any sway control is a secondary benefit. Same as stiffer sway bars and tail wag. If you do have worn leafs the bags will provide assistance but if the air pressure is excessive they will make for a harsh ride. Can you change the pressures for each bag individually or only in pairs such as front and back pairs? Yes it matters, and what is the pressure you have in the bags?

    For shocks they will dampen rebound but if the shocks are heavily resistant to movement they add will be transmitted to the vehicle. Bilstein shock are a bit stiff and resistant (maybe due to the gas charge) of the suspension. Koni shocks had a noticeable change and a softer ride for me but the cost was difficult to get past particularly if you just installed a new set.

    Tire pressures are weight dependent in addition to tire size and load range. Not knowing your weight or chassis model can't provide a recommendation other than to check your tire load rating. The Ford installed originals tires were load range F for 19.5 in diameter and G for 22.5 which had a higher load capacity than the axles. Increasing the load range provided no benefit and might contribute to a harsh ride.

    If handling isn't an issue then why add the Hellwig rear anti-sway bar. It will have the same effect as the CHF but at at no cost. If you're describing a rear track bar it will not help the ride only handling by eliminating tail wag.
  • Sounds like you have all the "stuff" for a decent handling rig. Maybe you are referring to trac-bars, not swaybars in part of your description? The rear trac-bar will help handling some.
    What do you mean by "rough"? What kind of roads/conditions were present?
    How many miles on your shocks?
    Have you had your rig weighed and proper tire inflaction according to the tire chart for your particular tires?