rivercity22 , Thanks for the link, that was very helpful.
lryrob9301 , Thanks for the warning about Chesaco, it made us do a little more research on them.
Their Joppa location is close to us and has a better reputation than Gambril. As for their price, on the first visit they were definitely sticking to their price, then we went home and sent them quotes from other dealers, dealers who are on line and rarely give you much for trade ins, and on our second visit they did drop their price a little over 16%.
We will probably sign the deal with them in 2 days after our test drive.
Also, their reviews prior to 2012 were all poor, then two of the last 3 were excellent. They got a new service manager a couple years ago and he has change a lot in their service department.