Goodyear Tires

topflite51 wrote:
I think my engineer friend would say "pressure, pressure and more pressure" to you. You say coach manufacturer says inflation should be 110 - 120 psi (?) and you are putting in only 95 and don't do anything unless your tpms says you are down to 92? What gives you the idea that the tire manufacturer knows more about your rig than the coach manufacturer does? And remember I also wrote this "Couple that with most MH's chassis are under shocked in the first place and you have a recipe for a problem.

All too often people want a soft and comfortable ride and when there are complications they then complain about it. They want someone to blame and most of the time they blame the tire manufacturer. I laugh every time I hear that the tire shop agrees with a customer that it is a defective Goodyear tire, what do you expect them to say? They don't want to make a customer mad and lose a sale.

Does anyone remember the Michelin XRV's and zipper blow outs? Did Michelin ever admit to a manufacturer's defect? I sure do not remember if they ever did. The consumer's claimed defect and Michelin, being Michelin(I am not a Michelin fan either), denied it and called it customer abuse. What was the abuse, most likely it was under inflation causing the sidewall to super heat and blow. Who caused the under inflation problem? The coach manufacturer? tire manufacturer? the consumer? I don't know, you choose. But, before you choose remember that the vast majority of users had NO problem with them. :S

Do tire manufacturer's ever make a defective tire? You bet they do, one of the worst was the Firestone 500 fiasco, what a nightmare that was.

Hello

First relax this is a good conversation but you have some facts wrong.
My coach has three different stickers in side the step well I see them every time I walk into the coach. One sticker says inflate to 110 lbs. the second sticker says inflate to 120 lbs. the third sticker says to inflate to XXX lbs. if you weigh this XXX that sticker is a Goodyear Tire Co. sticker. All those were put on by Alfa (my coach). In addition to those stickers or decals in my owners manual is 10 pages on the importance of proper tire inflation and how to determine the PROPER inflation how to weigh and charts from both Goodyear and Michelin tires. So that is what I followed the coach manufactures recommendation to weight the coach and adjust my pressure accordingly per the tire makers weight chart. BTY that chart was updated for the Michelin tires and seems to be the same for the Goodyear. So I think your engineer friend is probably a good guy or gal but when he/she says pressure pressure that is all hot air.
Next I never said I had a TPMS I actually go out and check each tire even in the cold and rain before each days travel and I use a high quality non digital gauge. I used to drive fire crews around the state of California and a pre-trip inspection was required every time you drove the vehicle. I also did, on weekends, PM on the fleet vehicles the simple stuff, oil change, brake adjustment and cleaning and inspecting for anything that was broken and tire inflation. The inflation pressure was painted on the fender just above the tire that pressure was determined by, guess what, the weight on that tire per the tire manufactures recommendation.
I really think you have got it wrong when you lean towards the coach manufacturer knowing more about tires than the tire manufacturer I think you are way out in left field on that one. The coach manufacturers will spec out the tires per what there engineer says and take bids and buy tires that way and then tell you to follow the tire makers recommendations on proper inflation and care. The stickers that say 110 or 120 lbs. are a CYA way of doing things.
And yes on the zipper blow out when I posted earlier (my post above) my thoughts were about Michelin tires because I had a set of Michelin that were cracking or checking. I had a Michelin tire specialist look at them and he said all was OK. The first thing he did was ask what was the pressure in the tires and them checked all of them and he asked if I had the coach weighed. He did not go look for factory stickers and tell me pressure pressure.

None of the above means a hoot why my tires are doing what the are doing it is to support my claims that I have done all I can to prevent what is happening to my tires but they are still rivering.

Link to photo of a Goodyear rivering:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FjVe6IKqm8A/UhjzeufBdTI/AAAAAAAARU8/kIiluky1pqM/s1600/Goodyear%2BTires%2BPaddle%2BWheel.jpg&imgrefurl=http://great-ads.blogspot.com/2013/08/goodyear-tires-wet-grip-experience.html&h=1023&w=1535&sz=1082&tbnid=xnxtJuo9DgFOZM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=190&zoom=1&usg=__W5IMvw2SzpC9H2uGiOCWgOUvKnc=&docid=AUXFVQPSGI7eTM&sa=X&ei=oAJkUubzKojH2QWZ6IDgBw&ved=0CEAQ9QEwAA

JimR