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JohnnyT
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Mar 09, 2015

Happy Camper or Frustrated Owner?

This thread is a rerun of a thread I ran in 2004 and again in 2005 . I was surprised and pleased that most who posted to the 2004 thread were in the happy camper category when the second thread ran.

I thought it would be constructive to run the thread again to see if there is any difference and to see if there is any new wisdom out there.
Here is a link to the previous threads;

2005


2004


This is thread is not intended to be a bashing tread, I am hoping to have a discussion that will benefit potential buyers by highlighting what they can do to give themselves the best chance to be a happy camper.

What is the best weapon to protect yourself from some of the many woe's that we read about on a daily basis on the forum. The question that keeps coming to mind is that some people will have very positive reviews of a particular make and model of a coach and others will have experiences that range from mildly frustrating to deplorable for the same make and model...

There seems to be a wide range of opinions about the state of quality in terms of what the standard is, where the fault lies, and what the remedies ought to be...Some are of the opinion that using the word quality and motorhome in the same sentence is inappropriate while others think otherwise, and still others that think that quality is a function of the make and model.

That brings the question of what is the best weapon to protect yourself. From what I have read on the forum and garnished from the research I have done, no manufacture, no make or model is immune from quality issues. The issue as to what are the causes for lapses in quality when they do occur might be have often been discussed... Design, engineering, manufacturing, quality control at the factory, quality assurance at the dealership, or due diligence on the part of the buyer remains as an open discussion. I am thinking that there is no one universal answer to this issue...Each component plays a role..... sometimes individually and at others in concert.

The other piece of the equation has to do with how problems are handled once discovered...We have all read about the frustrations with getting timely and adequate Responses to minimize the impact of problems when they do occur.

So what is the best weapon to protect ones self from feeling more like a victim than a happy camper? Is it a selection process? Picking the right manufacture? Or picking the right dealer? Or is it more of a buyers diligence in not only picking the right manufacture and dealer or doing research up front and doing an exhaustive and thorough Pre Delivery Inspection?... Or is it in reality the luck of the draw?

So I am going to ask the hard question, giving that you chose the make and model that you did on the basis that the floorplan, chassis, and options that best meet your requirements and pocketbook..... If dissatisfied.....What could you have done differently, if anything to have the motorhome you choose to meet your expectations in terms of quality?

For those of you that are satisfied, how do you account for being a happy camper?

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28 Replies

  • I'm a happy camper. Some of it has to do with my ability to inspect and know what to look for in a RV before purchasing. But some of it is just dumb luck for having gotten a good one that doesn't leak of have any chronic issues. I know this because the brand I bought is purely middle of the road in quality.
  • I'm a happy camper by doing my own research. I've always worked on all of my RV's and so I'm quick to look at how an RV is assembled, wiring ran and wood finished. Typically, there are only one or two chassis options so those choices come easy. Our first three RV's, two Lance Campers and a Fleetwood Class C came pretty much one way so there were not a lot of choices back then, other than length.

    We did buy one coach, a 2004 Fleetwood Terra, that we hated. It was the only coach we bought used (one year old) and had nothing but problems, particularly the Bosch brake issue. We bought it as an interim coach to use for about four years before I retired and purchased a DP. We bought it on a whim and I didn't do any real research. For us, it was our first coach with a slide and was huge. We sold it a year later, after doing a years worth of DP investigation.

    Our first DP was perfect and we had no complaints, keeping it for 10 years. I did the same research with our current coach and we love it. The only regret is the dark colored paint, which was all that was available in 2014. If I were to do it again, I would order one and pick my own colors.

    I think people who are new to the RV world will make some mistakes. I work on a lot of RV's for friends and often get questioned about what to buy. I encourage them to think about what they need and how they will use it, find some models they like and then come here and another forum and do some research on that model. I tell them to take complaints with a grain of salt, but look for reoccurring complaints.
  • The reason I am posting is that I agree COMPLETELY with everything that rgatijnet1 states above.

    I do not have a motorhome, but do have a '14 5th wheel, which was NOT cheap to buy. I also have a 2013 Ford F350 diesel truck. The truck construction, technology, and QUALITY is much better then that of the 5er. Why is that, I wonder ?

    If you go to the Fifth Wheels forum and look for the thread titled 'You gotta see this' that was started at the beginning of Feb, you will see the Honda concept mini truck and dedicated towable camper that looks like a mini 5th wheel. They both are really small and not very practical for the US but who knows what it could turn in to if Honda decided to build a version over here.

    IMHO the US RV manufacturers should be shaking in their boots, praying that this entire idea just fades away. Honda normally succeeds at whatever they put their mind to - large or small (Is there a better free standing generator line then the current Honda generators ???). I rode bikes starting back in the late 60s and the Hondas were the standard that all other bike manufacturers worldwide strived to emulate. The good domestic vehicles we drive today are a direct result of the foreign 'invasion' of the Japanese imports that started in the 60s.

    Tim
  • We are VERY happy campers! It may be what some consider a "welfare Motorhome", but it has met the needs we have. There were QC issues when we first purchased it, but once resolved, it is great. We wanted a large fresh water tank, levelers, dual pane windows, and an inboard gen. This is a solidly built MH.
  • I'm going to go with "I'm not only a happy Camper, but an extremely happy camper", RV and/or otherwise. We bought a '14 Itasca 35F last year and I think it's the best floor plan I've ever seen. Having the extra 1/2 bath but a whole new twist on using an RV. Haven't used it much in the past 9 months because we have been busy with closing down and trying to sell the house. After calling Las Vegas home since late 1985, we've made the decision to go home to Texas. If all goes well, we will move into the RV this coming Thursday and start the process of temporarily moving all our household goods into storage to wait on the closing of the sale of the house and renting a truck to haul our stuff to south Texas.
  • I remember automobiles in the 50's and 60's. They came with a 12,000 mile warranty and they also came with their share of problems. I started buying various RV's back in the 70's that ranged from caming trailers to eventually motor homes. As I saw automobiles improving their quality, which was a direct result of foreign competition, I did not see the same quality improvement in the RV industry. It was basically a take it or leave it attitude at any place that sold RV's.
    For that reason, if you wanted to participate in the RV lifestyle you learned to lower the bar and just accept what you got and immediately start your own upgrade/repair plan.
    Certainly mot an ideal solution but without any foreign competition to challenge the RV industry, like happened with the automobile industry, we are stuck with what we have.
    Basically the US manufacturers have set the bar pretty low and they realize that consumers do not have any recourse.
  • 1. I am happy but could have been happier on every coach. Happy that we have a very good coach.

    2. Quality and desires is in what you are willing to pay.

    3. Finding quality and desired layout (though never perfect) is in research and some experience. Some experience mmay come in test drives and shows. We had to get inside and play before we bought.

    4. Understanding my own capabilities and shortcomings. I can do some upgrades and service. Some are beyond me. I needed to buy to a certain level.

    5. There is no perfect RV. You just have to find the sweet spot of compromise. Get the 80% that you want.

    6. Enjoy what you have.
  • I'm a happy camper. I think it's mostly because I have learned to rely on myself for my decisions. That means I do my own research, I based decisions on facts not the opinions of others, I don't trust others to know my needs/wants/thoughts better than I do, I decide my budget based on what I know I can afford not on what someone else thinks I should spend, and I take responsibility for the results of my decisions.

    Whether buying new or used, I have used the above to purchase everything from an mp3 player to my house. The only times I have been an unhappy camper are the times I ignored one or more of the above.

    As for problems, I believe in the saying "choose your battles". I'm not going to fuss over a small cosmetic blemish, but I will fuss over a functional problem. I don't expect a warranty to equate to perfection or to my not needing to do anything.