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azrving wrote:
Reisender wrote:
rgatijnet1 wrote:
I believe that disposing of the old batteries can be a huge environmental headache.
I can also see the value of this RV decreasing quickly with time and that it may be difficult to unload once it gets close to battery replacement time. The cost for the new batteries and for disposal of the old batteries MAY exceed the total value of the coach.
I don’t understand the environmental headache statement. Maybe if it was a lead acid battery but a lithium ion battery is mostly aluminum. Not considered to be hazardous.
Lead acid battery is highly recycled.
Recycle
Exactly. Great article. Lead acid batteries are an environmental nightmare if they hit the landfill. Not the case with Lithium ion batteries. Used EV batteries also get a second life in other power storage applications so the life cycle is close to 30 years. Lots of interesting reading on this stuff.Reisender wrote:
rgatijnet1 wrote:
I believe that disposing of the old batteries can be a huge environmental headache.
I can also see the value of this RV decreasing quickly with time and that it may be difficult to unload once it gets close to battery replacement time. The cost for the new batteries and for disposal of the old batteries MAY exceed the total value of the coach.
I don’t understand the environmental headache statement. Maybe if it was a lead acid battery but a lithium ion battery is mostly aluminum. Not considered to be hazardous.
Lead acid battery is highly recycled.
Recycle- Western,
I don't know the details--but at least it is a start. pianotuna wrote:
No take out containers for your electric vehicles allowed at a lot of places.
The electric is included in the price. It is by no means "free". It is, however, and "all you can eat" buffet.
On a different note, what do you and Canada consider a single use plastic container? Milk jugs? How about the packaging bread, hotdogs, pudding cups, meat on the shelves And everything else wrapped in plastic? My guess it targets only plastic cups, which is pretty much a feel good, do little gesture to attract attention rather than solve a problem.- The electric is included in the price. It is by no means "free". It is, however, and "all you can eat" buffet.
wa8yxm wrote:
While "free" electric might be enticing I think everyone understands they need to pay. Separate meters for electric RVs would be best.
Well I'm not going to comment that much on the EV-RV but I will comment the campnground where I'm typing this charges folks who bring Electric Golf Cars 1.00/day extra. Many CG's are not metering power and billing long term residents (I still get free on my membership) But with an Electric RV I expect all will meter and bill.
500 miles range is acceptable but I'd like more.. I normally average about 400 miles a day when migrating but have done longer drives. I'd hate to run out of watts in the middle of the freeway.
I would be happy to limit my daily drive if I could cut fuel cost by 2/3rds. However the RV will only pick up 5 or 10 mph when connected to the standard 50 amp connector. Could easily take 30 to 50+ hours to charge.- Well I'm not going to comment that much on the EV-RV but I will comment the campnground where I'm typing this charges folks who bring Electric Golf Cars 1.00/day extra. Many CG's are not metering power and billing long term residents (I still get free on my membership) But with an Electric RV I expect all will meter and bill.
500 miles range is acceptable but I'd like more.. I normally average about 400 miles a day when migrating but have done longer drives. I'd hate to run out of watts in the middle of the freeway. HadEnough wrote:
Reisender wrote:
HadEnough wrote:
All absolutely useless as an RV. Just as every electric only vehicle is.
They are banning internal combustion engines all over Europe and are starting to do the same here.
Where does that leave us?
Might he time to start fighting for our rights. RVs should be exempt.
BC and Quebec dates are set for Jan 1st 2040. Only applies to the sale of new vehicles though. The vehicle itself must produce zero emmision. But I think that is just personal vehicles. I haven’t read the law but someone on a car forum mentioned there was a GVWR tied to it. Not sure.
Meh. I’m fine with it. No one is going to want a gas car or truck by then anyway.
Seems to me I read on the same site that some west coast states and New York have something similar coming.
Here's a link.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0dau8jgne_/?igshid=64el0m30604
An elected government passes legislation that goes into effect 21 years later and will be the same piece of legislation come 21 years if it even exists then at all? Ok.
Europe, Canada, some West coast states, and NY? Oh brother they'll save us all.Reisender wrote:
HadEnough wrote:
All absolutely useless as an RV. Just as every electric only vehicle is.
They are banning internal combustion engines all over Europe and are starting to do the same here.
Where does that leave us?
Might he time to start fighting for our rights. RVs should be exempt.
BC and Quebec dates are set for Jan 1st 2040. Only applies to the sale of new vehicles though. The vehicle itself must produce zero emmision. But I think that is just personal vehicles. I haven’t read the law but someone on a car forum mentioned there was a GVWR tied to it. Not sure.
Meh. I’m fine with it. No one is going to want a gas car or truck by then anyway.
Seems to me I read on the same site that some west coast states and New York have something similar coming.
Here's a link.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0dau8jgne_/?igshid=64el0m30604- Hi Alan,
The answer to your statement is that electric engines can be more than 90% efficient and even up to 98% efficient while combustion engines are 30 to 45% efficient.Alan_Hepburn wrote:
One thing that few people think about: until somebody can build an electric motor that is 100% efficient there will be a "cost" for running an electric motor. That cost is the inefficiency of the motor, which manifests itself as heat! So, in the end electric motors actually cause global warming!
