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Feb 17, 2015Explorer
Ron, I have a nexus viper. Seems to me only reasonable to compare Vipers to PC. Both B+s, both same market. Whatever gets made in a C class is not in the same market as PC. Having spent a year looking at Class B+/C for myself and another four months with Dad, I can tell you categorically that the back cap of the Nexus Viper is NOT the same as the back end of a low end Coachmen:
Here's the back of a viper: http://nexusrv.com/product/viper-29v-n540-2. Here is the back end of a Coachmen Freelander: http://www.coachmenrv.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=52. The side of the viper showing the front cap looks like this: http://nexusrv.com/product/viper-29v-n540-2; the front cap of the phoenix looks like this: http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2015-Phoenix-PHOENIX-CRUISER-PHOENIX-CRUISER-2552-113645782. Both have seaming. Nexis is away from the corner, phoenix is at the corner.
I will say this, two years ago, I spent two days at Hershey with my scooter comparing every aspect of construction on what I was considering. The nexus C was heads and tails nicer than any other Class C. I thought the 25P was really nice, but for a mushy mattress.
Nexus has adzel, PC does not. If the #1 killer of RVs is delam, that is is an important difference. Looking at alot of pictures of used PCs and more than a few in person, 1) PC did not update its interiors until very late in the game. Anything more than a couple years old is pretty ugly/granny looking. Newer ones have some nice bling -- like corian countertops. 2) I seem to see more than expected rust on the photos of PCs that I would have expected.
I like the slide out pantries that seem to be nearly unique to PC. But for the models I liked, the shower was short, and I am 5'4". I have no idea of how a guy stands in it. I with the battery box were bigger, but I wish that about the entire B+ class. Phoenix has real wood floors, I have vinyl, and wood is nicer, but then again I don't want to do wood floor maintenance in an Rv.
I do know this. I have spent now three nights in below ten degree weather in my rig and it was perfectly warm and comfortable. Sure, I kept the slides in, but I could get around just fine.
Here is a brand new, nicely equipped 29 foot viper (2910T) at $99k http://nexusrv.com/product/viper-29v-n490; Here's the comparable PC at $109k: http://www.phoenixusarv.com/u?id=2015-Phoenix-Cruiser-2910T-10624. Count the windows. I think Nexus makes a pretty darn nice product.
Here's the back of a viper: http://nexusrv.com/product/viper-29v-n540-2. Here is the back end of a Coachmen Freelander: http://www.coachmenrv.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=52. The side of the viper showing the front cap looks like this: http://nexusrv.com/product/viper-29v-n540-2; the front cap of the phoenix looks like this: http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2015-Phoenix-PHOENIX-CRUISER-PHOENIX-CRUISER-2552-113645782. Both have seaming. Nexis is away from the corner, phoenix is at the corner.
I will say this, two years ago, I spent two days at Hershey with my scooter comparing every aspect of construction on what I was considering. The nexus C was heads and tails nicer than any other Class C. I thought the 25P was really nice, but for a mushy mattress.
Nexus has adzel, PC does not. If the #1 killer of RVs is delam, that is is an important difference. Looking at alot of pictures of used PCs and more than a few in person, 1) PC did not update its interiors until very late in the game. Anything more than a couple years old is pretty ugly/granny looking. Newer ones have some nice bling -- like corian countertops. 2) I seem to see more than expected rust on the photos of PCs that I would have expected.
I like the slide out pantries that seem to be nearly unique to PC. But for the models I liked, the shower was short, and I am 5'4". I have no idea of how a guy stands in it. I with the battery box were bigger, but I wish that about the entire B+ class. Phoenix has real wood floors, I have vinyl, and wood is nicer, but then again I don't want to do wood floor maintenance in an Rv.
I do know this. I have spent now three nights in below ten degree weather in my rig and it was perfectly warm and comfortable. Sure, I kept the slides in, but I could get around just fine.
Here is a brand new, nicely equipped 29 foot viper (2910T) at $99k http://nexusrv.com/product/viper-29v-n490; Here's the comparable PC at $109k: http://www.phoenixusarv.com/u?id=2015-Phoenix-Cruiser-2910T-10624. Count the windows. I think Nexus makes a pretty darn nice product.
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