Is the year of the coach based on the year of the chassis

I could matter if the "generation" changed that year. I don't know about new ones, but eg, the 1992 Ford changed from the 1991s and before, with a better alternator etc. You can spot a 92 from a 91 just by its headlights.

So if you are a new buyer and there has been a generation change since last year, you should be able to spot that before buying the old style.

Years later and now you are selling, the buyer will notice if it is the older or newer generation that changed that year, so you have to advertise it according to the correct generation/year.

If the chassis hasn't changed from last year, who cares?

ferndaleflyer wrote:
Is everyone in CA this ignorant of what goes on in the rest of the world? Come on man!

Not everyone ,just the DMV.:W

Is everyone in CA this ignorant of what goes on in the rest of the world? Come on man!

toedtoes wrote:

klutchdust wrote:

ferndaleflyer wrote:
You might think different if you think you bought a new one and when you register your brand new $230,000+ coach it is 2 years old and you haven't even used it yet.

You did buy a new coach. The chassis has been sitting waiting for the house to be built. The date it is completed is the registered date of the vehicle and on the title. If the states listened to federal law then there would be less confusion. I see no conspiracy or hiding the facts here, it's a common practice.
You buy a 2021 and it's on a 2020 chassis the title says its a 2021 . You sell it it's a 2021. kapeesh?

This is the problem. Very few rigs are properly registered. The state DMVs will automatically go by the chassis VIN, so unless you are aware and are planned to fight it and get them to correct the model year, that 2021 is registered as a 2020. And you have to sell it as a 2020.

That's incorrect. The Title given to the buyer from the manufacturer has the year the unit was completed regardless of the chassis year. My 2009 itasca had a 2008 Chassis. I had in my possession the original title from Itasca.It said 2009. Now, California chooses to not educate their DMV what is federal law. All that is needed is a letter from
the manufacturer stating the law, which by the way is easy to get, and you present it to DMV. I did mine through AAA. There was no fighting involved. They changed it
without a problem.
California checks VIN numbers from out of state vehicles and are too ignorant to understand the partial build laws. IF it was purchased in Ca, no problem.

klutchdust wrote:

ferndaleflyer wrote:
You might think different if you think you bought a new one and when you register your brand new $230,000+ coach it is 2 years old and you haven't even used it yet.

You did buy a new coach. The chassis has been sitting waiting for the house to be built. The date it is completed is the registered date of the vehicle and on the title. If the states listened to federal law then there would be less confusion. I see no conspiracy or hiding the facts here, it's a common practice.
You buy a 2021 and it's on a 2020 chassis the title says its a 2021 . You sell it it's a 2021. kapeesh?

This is the problem. Very few rigs are properly registered. The state DMVs will automatically go by the chassis VIN, so unless you are aware and are planned to fight it and get them to correct the model year, that 2021 is registered as a 2020. And you have to sell it as a 2020.

ferndaleflyer wrote:
You might think different if you think you bought a new one and when you register your brand new $230,000+ coach it is 2 years old and you haven't even used it yet.

You did buy a new coach. The chassis has been sitting waiting for the house to be built. The date it is completed is the registered date of the vehicle and on the title. If the states listened to federal law then there would be less confusion. I see no conspiracy or hiding the facts here, it's a common practice.
You buy a 2021 and it's on a 2020 chassis the title says its a 2021 . You sell it it's a 2021. kapeesh?

You might think different if you think you bought a new one and when you register your brand new $230,000+ coach it is 2 years old and you haven't even used it yet.

I don’t see the problem as both of our RV’s had split model years and it is inconsequential that DMV treats the chassis according to the VIN number year. Shops look up the VIN for parts. But the build was done in the stated year so the inside was new then. So common as to not really cause issues unless specifically wanting the newer Ford chassis.

This will continue to be a PITA for most self-propelled RVs. Because EPA, DOT and MVSS regulations are all tied to the model year of the chassis, RV upfitters can no longer identify the unit by their own model year. Years back, the final upfitter would assign a VIN of their choosing, but as soon as the powers that be forced the 17 character VINs as a primary certification, that all had to change.

Matt

I had to furnish AAA insurance a copy of the sales contract to prove our rig was a 2004 because the VIN shows it as a 2003 rig. We didn't want our rig identified as a 2003 in the event of a total wreck scenario.